Tavares/Vatrano for Ovechkin/1-2 2018

[Old_Smokie]

This pick likely ends up being Nolan Patrick this year as I'm sure the guy picking first overall is going to shore up a goaler weakness. Is this a good trade for given it is a cap hit league. Ovie is about 9.5 JT is 5.5. I haven't even began to consider longevity here yet.

[butch]

5 year age difference , one more year at 5.5 cap hit then likely 9+ though for JT

you'd have to weigh the hit you'd take in some of the cats that ovey's strong in verses what you gain in JT (faceoff wins)

[Sulla]

As its a partial keeper is Vatrano even going to make that list for you?

[Pengwin7]

Ovechkin + pick, for me.

That said - this IS a good time to buy low on Tavares.
I have about 90% confidence that Tavares is done with NYI.
Which means 2018 he'll be choosing the team of his choice - and knowing his past - he'll look to sign with a contender that has better complimentary scoring for him to play with.

I think VAN, CGY, and MON are all going to be willing to offer Tavares $10m/yr in summer of 2018.
He'll be a coveted man and has plenty of youth... whereas OV is on his down-years.
That said, I still like OV/top 2 pick - but keep up your pursuit of Tavares.

[lucafen4]

Ovie's gotta be a full fantasy pt/gm ahead of JT in your format - especially with the extra point for goals, even in this goal scoring down year for Ovie. It'll be 2-3 years? before these two players become a wash production wise. Even if 33-36 is Ovie's new norm, the hits, sog he provides pushes him above JT annually, point totals each year relatively equal.

With JT's salary going up after this season, even with the age, I think that keeps them even at best for JT.

I also think you're underselling the value of your top 2 pick. Nico/Nolan turn into a Hall/Seguin type, you'll kick yourself and hard for getting Vatrano in return.

[Bass56]

IF you can land Patrick, I'd be all over that deal. IF you can only get Hischer, I'd still be very pleased with the return

[butch]

Ovechkin + pick, for me.

That said - this IS a good time to buy low on Tavares.
I have about 90% confidence that Tavares is done with NYI.
Which means 2018 he'll be choosing the team of his choice - and knowing his past - he'll look to sign with a contender that has better complimentary scoring for him to play with.

I think VAN, CGY, and MON are all going to be willing to offer Tavares $10m/yr in summer of 2018.
He'll be a coveted man and has plenty of youth... whereas OV is on his down-years.
That said, I still like OV/top 2 pick - but keep up your pursuit of Tavares.

I wouldnt blame him for leaving but he sure sounds like he wants to be an islander for life .

[DudeImJason]

Ovie/Patrick > JT/Vatrano by a big margin

Ovie with hits/shots is in a tier only accompanied by McDavid/Crosby and maybe Burns & Vatrano is a good year player but theres a reason why Patrick is the top of his draft class.