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    Default Mcdavid for Seguin, Kucherov, Cam Talbot

    League in signature (currently updating it). Points only keep 5+1 rookie.

    I have been offered mcdavid for kuch, Seguin, cam Talbot.

    Current keepers are kuch, Seguin, burns, getzlaf/Mack, Talbot. After would be mcdavid, burns, getzlaf, Mack, vasililevskiy.

    Is it too much?
    10 Team Keep 7 + 1 Rookie
    Point's: 1 G 1 A 1.5 W 1.5 SO
    Start:10 fs, 4 D, 1 Goalies
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    Goaltenders:
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    That is rough but I understand the asking price in a keep 5. I think you might be able to bargain them down a little bit, say not giving up Talbot but rather someone or something else. Tough call, I don't know if I could stomach that asking price but it's not every day you get offered McDavid too. If you aren't okay making that deal then I would try out a few counter offers to see where there's wiggle room - usually there's a player in every offer they can live without.

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    In a keep 5 I don't think it's too much. It's tough, but you should be able to make up the depth in your keepers next year, and then just be rolling through other teams the few years after that.
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    In a keep 5, I'd do it. I'd still counter with them maybe throwing in a slight pick upgrade or something, but especially straight points I like it.
    12 Team Keep 6: G/A:1 W/SO:2
    C - McDavid, Matthews, Schiefele
    LW - Draisaitl, Fiala, Meier
    RW - ​​Marner, Barzal, Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Morrissey, Dunn, Matheson
    G - Skinner
    B - Marchessault, Caufield, Teravainen, McCann, Montour, Jones, Saros

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    D - Bouchard, Dobson, Matheson, Andersson, Letang
    G - Vasilevskiy, Markstrom
    B - Joseph, Schenn, Nyqvist, Roslovic, Duclair, S. Jones, Korpisalo, Quick, Rittich
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    Default Re: Mcdavid for Seguin, Kucherov, Cam Talbot

    I like the Kucherov side.

    I would keep

    Kucherov
    Seguin
    Burns
    Shattenkirk
    Talbot
    6 Team no limit Keeper. Cap league $100m
    Points only G/A=1, Hattrick = +3, Wins = 2, SO = +3, OTL/SOL = +1
    12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies, 6 Reserve (any position)

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    Stone $9.5
    Svechnikov $7.7
    Debrincat $6.4
    Hall $6
    Meier $6
    Guentzel $6
    Ehlers $6
    Hertl $5.6
    Konecny $5.5
    Palat $5.3
    JT Miller $5.2
    Garland $4.9
    Kakko $.9
    Laff $.9


    Defense
    Josi $9
    Burns $8
    Letang $7.2
    Nurse $5.6
    Werenski $5
    Sergachev $4.8
    Fox $.9

    Goalies
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    Ullmark $5
    Hart $3.9
    Blackwood $2.8


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    I'm trying to get a pick upgrade or one of his throwaway keepers (he's offered galchenyuk).

    Our league may go down to keep 4 after this season which makes mcdavid even more essential.
    10 Team Keep 7 + 1 Rookie
    Point's: 1 G 1 A 1.5 W 1.5 SO
    Start:10 fs, 4 D, 1 Goalies
    Daily lineups

    Forwards:
    MacKinnon, McDavid, Aho, Teuvo, Schwartz, cirelli, Getzlaf, Zibanajed, Buchnevich, Hoffman, Zucker, Danault, Krejci, Gusev
    D Karlsson, Gustaffson, Letang, Krug, Hronek

    Goaltenders:
    Vas, Binnington

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    Considering that its a keep 5 and it may go down to 4 I have no problem suggesting you do the deal. You get the best player period and honestly, your last few keepers are still high quality players.
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    The more I think about it the more I think you should do it. Your call whether to counter offer first or just take the deal. As others have pointed out, you can fill your 4/5 slots up quite well after the deal. And you can improve on it next season, but you now have the top player to own in a keeper league. Vas may end up not being a dropoff at all next year from Talbot if TB rebounds. And theres some interesting names like MacKinnon which are worth another roll of the dice on.

    12 team H2H Most Cats Wins; Keep 6/winner keeps 7; G A PPP +/- SHP SOG HIT BLK PIM // W SV GAA SV% SHO
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6D, 2G, 5 bench

    C - McDavid, Crosby, Tavares
    LW - DeBrincat
    RW - Meier, Miller
    D -
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    Keep 5 - I would do deal all day - probably only chance to get McD. Key to deal is Vasilevsky replacing Talbot. Hit accept, reap the rewards years to come.
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    Alright! Let's hope he doesn't it pull it off the table
    10 Team Keep 7 + 1 Rookie
    Point's: 1 G 1 A 1.5 W 1.5 SO
    Start:10 fs, 4 D, 1 Goalies
    Daily lineups

    Forwards:
    MacKinnon, McDavid, Aho, Teuvo, Schwartz, cirelli, Getzlaf, Zibanajed, Buchnevich, Hoffman, Zucker, Danault, Krejci, Gusev
    D Karlsson, Gustaffson, Letang, Krug, Hronek

    Goaltenders:
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    It's yes for me. Get the top end talent.
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    Out of interest what are your picks looking like? If I have a lot of top end picks it probably makes it easier IMO
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    In a keep 5 that is a steal for McDavid. Consolidate your talent and upgrade your other keepers after. Great deal for you as is.

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    I'd keep Atkinson over one of Getzlaf/Mack in a points only. Esp. if the Ducks go deep. I'd expect a decline in Getz next year
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    As everyone says, seal the deal. It's good for you, especially since you have Vasy to replace Talbot. Look at how he finished for Tampa, he'll be great next year. McDavid is one of a kind; you don't get offered a 20-year old kid with 100 points every day!

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