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    If you're in the limited keeper league detailed in my signature and you can keep a max of two goalies from the list below, who do you keep & why? Where would you rank each of them amongst all goalies (i.e., top 5, top 10, bottom 15, etc.), given my league stats?

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    Vasilekskiy
    Hellebuyck
    Bishop
    Fleury

    I'm in no hurry to move anyone -- in fact, I want to wait until late June / early July to see where Bishop and Fleury land -- but I'm trying to sort out in my head their separate values.
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    LEAGUE: keeper -- 6 keepers per year, no farm; roto; 10 managers, 18-man rosters; 2 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4 D, 1 UTIL, 2 G, 5 Bench; limits of 99 games per skater position & 82 games per goalie position; daily roster moves; max 100 waiver wire transactions per year; scoring categories of G, A, +/-, HIT, PPP, SOG, DEF (points by d-men), W, GAA, SA%, and SV.

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    C: Schenn, Granlund (RW), Lee (LW)
    LW: Ovechkin* (RW), Benn*, Arvidsson
    RW: Tarasenko*, Kucherov*, Kreider
    D: Karlsson* (IR), Faulk, Carlson, Parayko, Yandle, Phaneuf
    G:: Vasilevskiy*, Crawford, Rinne, Greiss

    * = 2017 keepers

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    Bishop and Fleury may move up or down depending on where they land. The other three would be ranked as such:
    Allen
    Vas
    Helle

    If landing spots are equal, then I have Fleury a touch above Bishop. If landing spots are ideal, then they could slide in just ahead of Vas, but I think it's likely they will end up somewhere that nets them both a spot between 3 and 5 on your list.
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    Vasilevsky
    Allen (Thanks to coaching change and a new worldclass goalie coach he is emerging in last 3 months, but had a horrible first half)
    Bishop (it depends on where he lands, but he is often injured nowadays, so...)

    Fleury (i don't care where he lands, i'm not ready to ranking him better than other three above him)
    Hellebuyck (still young & talented, and he had a trash D in front of himself this year, but has questionmarks)

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    Allen and Vasilevskiy would be the two goalies I keep at the moment. Look at Allen's splits after Hitchcock left as coach - huge difference, and they did not have a good relationship.

    Agree, wait until finding out where Bishop/Fleury land before making any final decisions.
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    Agree with Ian and EB - those two would be my preference especially as they will still be on two good teams - if MAF and Bishop end up on the likes of Dallas and LV I'm probably not sold enough to keep them but if one goes to Calgary.... Because I really like that D corps probably more than I should - especially if they re sign Stone
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    Vasilevskiy and Allen for me.


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    Rumors are swirling that Winnepeg could be looking to bring in a goalie short term? Not sure what would happen, but honestly wouldn't be shocked to see MAF or Bishop end up there and try to push them into the playoffs. Personally, trying to put bias aside, I think Allen is at the top of the list, Hellebuyck at the bottom. I'd rank the middle three Bishop/Vas/MAF, but as Eskimo said, that will be changed by where Bishop and MAF end up
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    Thanks for the insight, gents. I guess I'll have to wait until early July before making any final decisions on this. Allen and Vas are the guys I'm instinctively drawn to keep (they're young, they're on good teams, they have good pedigrees), but I also know that I should be able to land a sure-fire top 3 goalie if I package one of them with a RW. The issue right now is I have 7 clear keeper worthy players and only six spots.
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    LEAGUE: keeper -- 6 keepers per year, no farm; roto; 10 managers, 18-man rosters; 2 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4 D, 1 UTIL, 2 G, 5 Bench; limits of 99 games per skater position & 82 games per goalie position; daily roster moves; max 100 waiver wire transactions per year; scoring categories of G, A, +/-, HIT, PPP, SOG, DEF (points by d-men), W, GAA, SA%, and SV.

    ROSTER:

    C: Schenn, Granlund (RW), Lee (LW)
    LW: Ovechkin* (RW), Benn*, Arvidsson
    RW: Tarasenko*, Kucherov*, Kreider
    D: Karlsson* (IR), Faulk, Carlson, Parayko, Yandle, Phaneuf
    G:: Vasilevskiy*, Crawford, Rinne, Greiss

    * = 2017 keepers

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    Allen
    Vasil,
    Bishop - if he heads to Dal/Cgy I bump him to#1
    Fleury - same as Bishop but 2nd below Allen
    Helle - not worth a keeper slot as of yet
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    I choose Vasilevsky as number one and Allen as second (they have the best results), while my pick for third place is Hellebuyck. Those are young talents who are already being compared to veterans like Bishop and Fleury.

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    Another vote for Vasilevskiy (1) and Allen (2).

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    With my situation I have bob as an option for me. Is he better to have then the older guys like bishop fleury and Allen?

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    Same answer to a degree - dictated by where Fleury and Bishop lands IMO
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