Value of 1st Overall in Entry Draft

[stimperi]

Hi guys,

I lucked out and won the lottery in our league after finishing 3/9. As my team is pretty competitive right now, also young core, I really don't need the pick. I would be looking to improve on wing primarily, so the question is:

What caliber of a winger should I be expecting and asking for the pick in this years weakish (?) entry draft?

Thanks in advance!

[Sulla]

I always leave a trade for that's sort of pick until your draft when GMs tend to want to be the guy that 'spotted the potential' of whoever they pick (even if it is first overall). Re who you can acquire totally depends how much you can drive the price up to so I shop it hard and play offers off against each other to maximise it (be warned there is a skill in doing that without annoying the GMs bidding). A pretty vague answer I know but hope it helps

[Tfan5211]

I think you could get a guy like bjorkstrand

[Axeman33]

I dont think anyone here can tell you what the pick is worth because every league is a little different when it comes to player value.

I do know if I were going to move the pick, I wouldn't be looking to do it until close to your draft date. Thats when these picks have their max value. Put it out there that you are open to offers and see what comes your way.

Personally, I would keep it but again, it all depends on league setup and your current roster limitations.

[lucafen4]

Well... I would first start creating the argument that as weak as the draft is, that excludes the top two picks and begin laying comments about how sick HIscher's game or series was, his WJC dominance. How well Patrick has played since injury, how big/fast/strong he is. Pump the tires on your pick. Say you'll entertain offers, but don't really want to move it cuz you love these two guys. You'll increase your return. That and wait until right before the draft. What you get offered now, is a fraction of what you'll get offered leading up to draft day.

With all the negative talk, they're still two really good players. would have been interesting to see Patrick in last years draft to see where he would have gone. IMO - 3rd to CBJ as they wanted a C. I would be wanting top end prospect coming back. or a really solid NHL player in a deal.

[PenguinHunter]

As Axeman mentioned it is different in each league.

I wouldn't try to trade it for just a winger.... I think you will get more value the pick with a current winger for a much better winger. Use it as a tool to improve on a current winger.

[Jouko-Pouko]

Well... I would first start creating the argument that as weak as the draft is, that excludes the top two picks and begin laying comments about how sick HIscher's game or series was, his WJC dominance. How well Patrick has played since injury, how big/fast/strong he is. Pump the tires on your pick. Say you'll entertain offers, but don't really want to move it cuz you love these two guys. You'll increase your return. That and wait until right before the draft. What you get offered now, is a fraction of what you'll get offered leading up to draft day.

With all the negative talk, they're still two really good players. would have been interesting to see Patrick in last years draft to see where he would have gone. IMO - 3rd to CBJ as they wanted a C. I would be wanting top end prospect coming back. or a really solid NHL player in a deal.

I agree with this strategy. Keep the pick until closer to the draft. But I would want a 60 point player in return for the 1st overall pick. See if you can even get a 65 point player. If you don't get at least a 60 point player, then keep the pick.

[stimperi]

Thanks for the input. I'm afraid that if I keep the pick, Patrick/Hischier as centers might never crack my playing lineup of 4, having McDavid/Eichel/Backstrom as locks and Strome, Zacha, Dvorak etc on center prospects, as well as Tyler Johnson and Little.

But, I would not like to throw it away too easily either. Maybe the best thing to do is to let it play out a little while and see if anything comes up

[Axeman33]

Personally I like the idea of drafting one of the big two and prospects like Zacha, Dvorak, etc are always tradeable later on if need be, especially if you don't get a trade offer you like.

[Jouko-Pouko]

Thanks for the input. I'm afraid that if I keep the pick, Patrick/Hischier as centers might never crack my playing lineup of 4, having McDavid/Eichel/Backstrom as locks and Strome, Zacha, Dvorak etc on center prospects, as well as Tyler Johnson and Little.

But, I would not like to throw it away too easily either. Maybe the best thing to do is to let it play out a little while and see if anything comes up

Keeping the pick doesn't mean you have to keep the player forever, right? You can trade Patrick/Hischier when the season starts for example. If healthy, they could crack the NHL right away. That would probably make them even more valuable trade chips.

[Sulla]

....especially if they start well....

[stimperi]

Yeah. It can't hurt to have too many great prospects, can it

[stimperi]

Another question relating - how do you guys value Clayton Keller compared to 1st overall this year? Better, same-ish, worse?

[Jouko-Pouko]

Another question relating - how do you guys value Clayton Keller compared to 1st overall this year? Better, same-ish, worse?

Probably same-ish right now.

[Axeman33]

Another question relating - how do you guys value Clayton Keller compared to 1st overall this year? Better, same-ish, worse?

It depends on your league setup and who you consider the 1st overall this year (obviously we don't know who it will be yet). Comparing Hischier to Nolan Patrick, one is a better sniper and one is a better multi-cat player. I would say Keller is more comparable to Hischier than he is to Patrick because of their style of play.