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    How would you rank these 3 defencemen next year in a pool that counts Goals, Assists, and PPP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
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    Yup. With the majority here.

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    Assuming he lands up somewhere with a half-decent power play, I would put Stattenkirk at the top, followed by Ghost, and then Barrie.

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    It' Shattenkirk - I'm not going to argue with him as the pick. But let's not forget that he's going to be a major UFA this summer, which to me means (a) he could feel the pressure of the large deal and not quite do as well as expected, or (b) he could drop his effort level now that his wallet is overflowing. Meanwhile, Barrie's value - due to his terrible team and an off year - likely will be lower. What I'm getting at is Barrie could conceivably represent the better cost vs. value player under some circumstances.
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    Thanks for everyone's replies. Seems like consensus for Shatty, but a 5-5 tie between Ghost and Barrie. Can anyone share why they would choose either Ghost or Barrie over the other if they have any strong feelings about it?

    My arguments for Barrie over Ghost: More proven, better value after terrible Colorado year, less competition (Ghost has Provy and others coming up on the depth chart)
    My arguments for Ghost over Barrie: Plays on a better team and better powerplay, younger, showed amazing promise last year (but not sure if it was flash in the pan)


    Any arguments / reasoning are welcome!

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    I just can't get on board with Barrie, he's bad defensively on a bad team. Even if Colorado gets better, it likely means Barrie plays less because they have actual top pair Dmen, which really doesn't help his outlook.

    Philly as a whole started the season off badly, and like with Klingberg, I think Ghost can turn things around moving forward. Of course a regression was coming after last year's crazy start to his career, but I still like his outlook more than Barrie's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    I just can't get on board with Barrie, he's bad defensively.
    I just can't get on board with Gostisbehere, he's bad defensively. He's worse than Barrie is by quite a bit in my opinion.

    He will likely never be more than a 3rd pairing dman. Barrie is one of the two best dmen in Colorado and that's not going to change any time soon. He will likely continue to play 3+ minutes more per game than Gostisbehere will. Barrie will have Erik Johnson, Nikita Zadorov, Duncan Siemens and Chris Bigras to compete with for ice time in the future. Gostisbehere has Provorov, Hagg, Morin, Sanheim to compete with. That is a much better group of dmen that will take away more of Gostisbehere's ice time.

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