I think this is a big mistake. Giroux is in a slump but this seems like a major panic/sell low move.
For the league in my sig.
I just traded: Giroux
I received: Horvat, Jost
I know I'm losing the best player, and I am competing this year, but Giroux was concerning me. Is Horvat that big of a drop off from Giroux at this point?
What do we expect from Jost? While I made this move for Horvat, if Jost can turn into a 60 point player in the future I think I will this big.
Thoughts?
- 12 team, 40 keeper dynasty league
- Scoring categories for skaters: G, A, PIM, HIT, BLK, STP, FOW, SOG, +/-, DEF, ATOI
- Scoring categories for goalies: W, SV, SV%, SO, GAA
- Start 12F, 6D, 3UTIL, 3 min goalie starts a week
- Starters in bold
Forwards: MacKinnon, Tarasenko, Tavares, Panarin, Johansen, Ehlers, E. Kane, Lee, Huberdeau, Horvat, Kessel, Pastrnak, Keller, Pacioretty, Meier, Fabbri, Sikura, Zacha, Burakovsky, Spooner, Jost, Roussel, Kaprizov, Cirelli, Berglund,
Defense: Pietrangelo, Parayko, Dumba, Faulk, Provorov, Muzzin, McAvoy, Carlson, Nurse, Del Zotto, Borowiecki, Russell
Goalies: Jones, Vasilevskiy, Raanta, Keumper, Remier, Demko
I think this is a big mistake. Giroux is in a slump but this seems like a major panic/sell low move.
I think in 2 years this will be a good trade for you - Jost will be producing & Horvat will be a 65pt C...
...... but you have to wait two years.
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I personally like it, but I'm not a fan of Giroux
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I personally like it, but I'm not a fan of Giroux
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6 Keepers league w/Yahoo
C: Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel,
LW: Andrei Svechnikov
RW: Nikita Kucherov, Mitchell Marner
D:
G: Andrei Vasilevskiy
(G) 3 (A) 2 (+/-) 0.5 (PIM) 0.5 (PPP) 1 (SHG) 1 (GWG) 2
(Shots) 0.1 (W) 3 (GA) -1 (SV) 0.2 (SHO) 5
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I am a huge homer Horvat fan but I think I like the Giroux side better. I don't think Horvat has Giroux's offensive upside even at this stage in their careers but I could be wrong. I could see Giroux rebounding next year with 70+ points and Horvat still trying to scratch the surface of 60.
12 Team Keep 5 (2 F, 1 D, 1 G, 1 Any) G,A,PTS,PPP,SOG,HITS,PIMS,W,GAA and Sv%.
F: Kucherov, K.Connor, J. Hughes,,J.Guentzel, A.Svechnikov, C.Giroux, T.Terry
D: Q. Hughes, A.Pietrangelo, J.Carlson, A.Ekblad, Sanheim
G:Bobrovsky, Ingram
I am a huge homer Horvat fan but I think I like the Giroux side better. I don't think Horvat has Giroux's offensive upside even at this stage in their careers but I could be wrong. I could see Giroux rebounding next year with 70+ points and Horvat still trying to scratch the surface of 60.
12 Team Keep 5 (2 F, 1 D, 1 G, 1 Any) G,A,PTS,PPP,SOG,HITS,PIMS,W,GAA and Sv%.
F: Kucherov, K.Connor, J. Hughes,,J.Guentzel, A.Svechnikov, C.Giroux, T.Terry
D: Q. Hughes, A.Pietrangelo, J.Carlson, A.Ekblad, Sanheim
G:Bobrovsky, Ingram
Giroux has multiple 70+ pt seasons. I wouldn't be surprised if horvat didn't have one by the end of his career. I'm also a vancouver local and canuck fan, and as much as I like horvat, he's not gonna be a big point producer. I'm thinking like...filpula, zajac...there are probably better examples, but those ones come to mind right now.
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Giroux has multiple 70+ pt seasons. I wouldn't be surprised if horvat didn't have one by the end of his career. I'm also a vancouver local and canuck fan, and as much as I like horvat, he's not gonna be a big point producer. I'm thinking like...filpula, zajac...there are probably better examples, but those ones come to mind right now.
Weekly H2H 4games/week. 14 Teams,21 Player roster+ 3 protected prospects
20 week Regular season + 3 Rounds of Playoffs
Keep 10
G+A = 1pt, Dman G+A = 1.5pt, PPG =1pt, PPA = 0.5pt, SHG = 1pt, SHA = 0.5pt, ShootoutG = 0.25pt, GWG = 1pt, Hatty = 3pt, DMan Hatty = 5pt, +/- (For D only) = +/- 0.5pt, W = 2pt, L = -1pt, OTL = 1pt, ShootoutL = 0.5pt, SO = 1pt, S = 0.1pt, GA = -0.5pt, Goalie Goal = 5pt
Each week play: 3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 3 D, 2 G
C: Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaf, Zibanejad
LW: Schwartz, Kase, Debrusk, Dzingel
RW: Ehlers, Lindholm, Zuccarrello, Tuch
D: Letang, Burns, Krug, Edler
G: Vasilevskiy, Fleury, Saros, Domingue
Prospects: Sorokin, Kaprizov, Hart
I think if you wanted to sell Giroux, you probably could have gotten a better return... but I could be wrong.
I am not a Canucks fan, but I'm sold on Horvat - I agree he likely will never hit 70pts, perhaps it'll happen given the right situation - mainly Boeser becoming a top line beast and on his wing for the next 10 years being primary condition #1. That said, He's going to be better and more consistent than Filpula or Zajac.
I think Bergeron production 60-65pts per season and really solid in his own zone (maybe not Bergie's level defensively). Is a serious possibility. That's why I put him passing Giroux in a two year time frame. I think Giroux is more of a 60-65pt player now - tow years and they'll become even around that bench mark.
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I traded Giroux for Kadri 1-1 in a multi-cat league as I stated in a different thread. I just have a gut feeling he's going to be an early decliner - Giroux
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Lucafens assessment is fair. I guess I look at it like this and I am ignoring Jost for the moment. But I see Giroux as still at 60-75 point guy and I am looking at Horvat as a 55 to 65 point guy. Then add into the fact that Giroux's name value probably still holds quite a bit more weight then I am weighing it slightly more on the Giroux side.
12 Team Keep 5 (2 F, 1 D, 1 G, 1 Any) G,A,PTS,PPP,SOG,HITS,PIMS,W,GAA and Sv%.
F: Kucherov, K.Connor, J. Hughes,,J.Guentzel, A.Svechnikov, C.Giroux, T.Terry
D: Q. Hughes, A.Pietrangelo, J.Carlson, A.Ekblad, Sanheim
G:Bobrovsky, Ingram
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Since you're still competing, the Giroux side. The guy still has point per game potential, a talent that is hard to find in the NHL these days. I'm not sold on Horvat yet, his S% and on ice team S% are both a little high right now and to me he maxes out at 60. Conversely, Giroux's S% and on ice team S% are both a little low this year pointing to a bounce back and to me he's a 65-70 guy with a shot at point per game every year. So it's a substantial downgrade now for a shot that Jost develops into a useful fantasy asset years down the road. Not a trade I would have made.