Pavalec Experiment Over Yet?

[BreadManPanarin]

4 games... 3, 3, 3 and 4 goals allowed. Would like to see the Jets move on from the idea that Pavalec is gonna save their season and get back to letting Hellebuyck develop. Baptism by fire style if necessary.

[Wonko]

Yes, I agree. Maurice may not be around much longer if he continues down this stubborn path too long....

[Sulla]

You're ignoring the fact that despite the goals against he has a winning record and when I watched him (v St Louis) actually looked OK... Loses his next two and the experiment will definitely be over though

[Wonko]

You're ignoring the fact that despite the goals against he has a winning record and when I watched him (v St Louis) actually looked OK... Loses his next two and the experiment will definitely be over though

2 wins 2 loses in 4 games. But who's counting

[GSD]

He will get his share of starts. If Hellybuck starts all the games, he may continue to get shelled and kill his confidence. Clearly he is not ready for the sole number one spot yet.

[BreadManPanarin]

You're ignoring the fact that despite the goals against he has a winning record and when I watched him (v St Louis) actually looked OK... Loses his next two and the experiment will definitely be over though

He was on the winning team in those two games because his teammates put up 5 and 6 goals. He did not "win" those two games for his team, he just managed not to give up 6 and 7 goals and lose. He is sporting a 3.31 GAA and a .894 save%. Despite his recent struggles, Hellebuyck has a 2.82 GAA and .907 save%. I don't see any merit to sticking with Pavelec going forward.... even for another two games.

[Kofax]

He was on the winning team in those two games because his teammates put up 5 and 6 goals. He did not "win" those two games for his team, he just managed not to give up 6 and 7 goals and lose. He is sporting a 3.31 GAA and a .894 save%. Despite his recent struggles, Hellebuyck has a 2.82 GAA and .907 save%. I don't see any merit to sticking with Pavelec going forward.... even for another two games.

I would argue he still deserves some rope to see how he does. Two more games sounds about right.

Against ARI, he was decent, giving up three goals on 33 shots is average and better than what they've been getting.

He won them the STL game. They were outshot 37 to 29. He made 25 saves in the second period alone while it was a close game, and his team woke up in the 3rd.

Against ANA he was again average, about what they've been getting elsewhere.

Against SJS was his 3rd game in 4 nights and a back to back. He wasn't very good, but you have to give him a pass on that one as that's a lot for any goalie to handle.

[Eskimo Brother]

I do agree with the point that 2 more games is about how much longer than can stand to have Pavelec in. If he wins both, it gets extended by another two games or so.
I too would love to see Helle get the experience though and come on strong next year.

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I do agree with the point that 2 more games is about how much longer than can stand to have Pavelec in. If he wins both, it gets extended by another two games or so.
I too would love to see Helle get the experience though and come on strong next year.

[Axeman33]

I dont think it matter who's in nets for the Jets. Their D isn't great.

[ericdaoust]

I wonder if they'll eventually waive/demote Hutchinson and run with just Pav and Helly.

[Instant Karma]

I''l agree with Axe here.

It may be a matter of just getting Helle out of the line of fire before his confidence was utterly shot, if it wasn't already.

I'd expect them to put Helle in for a start pretty soon, just to get a reading of where his head's at.

[Rodgort]

I wonder if they'll eventually waive/demote Hutchinson and run with just Pav and Helly.

I don't think they can risk losing him on waivers as he is the goalie they have to protect for the expansion draft. Helly doesn't count and Pavs is a ufa.

The WPG media loves Pavs, and always has, hence why he is back up. They kept writing and writing about it, same with some talking heads on Sportsnet. But at best he should just split start with Helly. Giving him the B2B starts was an awful idea his record in B2B is like 2-12 with a sub-.880sv% .. Maurice probably fired soon, but if we have learned anything from Chevy it is that he doesn't do anything quickly haha

[BreadManPanarin]

I''l agree with Axe here.

It may be a matter of just getting Helle out of the line of fire before his confidence was utterly shot, if it wasn't already.

I'd expect them to put Helle in for a start pretty soon, just to get a reading of where his head's at.

I mean, Helly did put up a 28 save shut out right before his two games that he got pulled early in. Vasilevskiy recently had a much more prolonged run of just god awful results and looked like his confidence was utterly shot. Now he has 1.84 GAA and .938 save % over his last 4 games. If your young supposedly future stud goalie is able to have his psyche rocked so hard that it causes permanent damage if you continue to put him out there, then he probably isn't a future stud goalie! If they had a veteran option that was clearly better than Hellebuyck then I'd say go for it... but Pavelec isn't that guy. He has a career save% of .907 for God sakes. Hellebuyck's is .912 and he is 23 years old. Let him work through adversity this season so that next season he is ready to be the guy. This is so clear cut and obvious to me, so that means I am probably just an idiot.

[Wonko]

I mean, Helly did put up a 28 save shut out right before his two games that he got pulled early in. Vasilevskiy recently had a much more prolonged run of just god awful results and looked like his confidence was utterly shot. Now he has 1.84 GAA and .938 save % over his last 4 games. If your young supposedly future stud goalie is able to have his psyche rocked so hard that it causes permanent damage if you continue to put him out there, then he probably isn't a future stud goalie! If they had a veteran option that was clearly better than Hellebuyck then I'd say go for it... but Pavelec isn't that guy. He has a career save% of .907 for God sakes. Hellebuyck's is .912 and he is 23 years old. Let him work through adversity this season so that next season he is ready to be the guy. This is so clear cut and obvious to me, so that means I am probably just an idiot.

Well then I am an Idiot too I guess because I agree with this completely. If anything, discarding Hellebuyck and Hutchison aside and calling up Pavelec in this fashion may actually end up doing more harm than good IMO. I think Maurice needs to take a few deep breathes and make his decisions in a calmer state of mind.

[Sulla]

2 wins 2 loses in 4 games. But who's counting

Well it's not a losing record