very good list. only thing I disagree with is TT and Jagr, dont think they will produce that much but very solid list
Let me know what you think of these.
Crosby 90
Kane 88
McDavid 88
Benn 87
Tavares 82
Gaudreau 81
Tarasenko 79
Karlsson 78
Ovechkin 77
Seguin 77
Pavelski 76
Kuznetsov 75
Backstrom 75
Kucherov 73
Giroux 73
Wheeler 72
Getzlaf 72
Panarin 71
Kopitar 71
Thornton 71
Malkin 71
Stamkos 70
Burns 68
Monahan 68
Forsberg 67
Johansen 67
Perry 67
Scheifele 67
Barkov 67
Eichel 66
Voracek 66
Pacioretty 66
Huberdeau 66
Hall 66
Kessel 64
Stone 64
Eberle 64
Galchenyuk 63
O'Reilly 63
Toews 63
Letang 63
Bergeron 62
Lucic 62
Toffoli 61
MacKinnon 61
Schwartz 61
Johnson 61
Spezza 61
Couture 61
Krejci 61
Schenn 60
Josi 60
Brassard 60
Parise 60
D Sedin 59
Landeskog 59
Subban 59
Duchene 59
Van Riemsdyk 59
Matthews 59
Okposo 58
Simmonds 58
Ladd 58
Klingberg 58
Zuccarello 58
Turris 58
Radulov 57
Nash 57
Carter 57
Saad 57
Carlson 57
Trocheck 57
Ekman-Larsson 57
Stepan 56
Hoffman 56
Palmeri 56
H Sedin 55
Palat 55
Jokinen 55
Neal 55
Marchand 54
Henrique 54
Nugent-Hopkins 54
Oshie 54
Domi 54
Ryan 54
Little 53
Eriksson 53
Skinner 53
Draisaitl 53
Sharp 53
Hornqvist 52
Zibanejad 52
Larkin 52
Jagr 52
Stastny 52
Reinhart 52
Laine 51
Marner 51
Nyquist 51
Kesler 51
Plekanec 51
Fabbri 51
Barrie 51
Girodano 51
Boedker 51
Byfuglien 51
Smith 51
Ehlers 51
Koivu 51
Wennberg 51
Rask 51
Jenner 51
Soderberg 50
Teravainen 50
Couturier 50
Gallagher 50
Atkinson 49
Doughty 49
Bennett 49
Hedman 49
Zetterberg 49
Niederreiter 48
Backes 48
Rakell 48
Spooner 48
Gostisbehere 48
very good list. only thing I disagree with is TT and Jagr, dont think they will produce that much but very solid list
I could nitpick based on a few minor things I disagree with, but that's a mighty fine list!
I saw an episode of Brain Games where they had 10 participants try to guess how many balls or something we're in this box. All these guess we're really sporadic, ranging from the low 100's to close to 1000. Then they added everyone's guess and divided by 10. The number they got was off by about 10. So I took that same concept and did it with 3 hockey guides. Dobber, Hockey News and Hockey the Magazine. And these are the results.
Pretty solid list. I think it’s a good list to go off of with some anomalies.
Letang making it enough games to score 63pts is one of them.
99% of them are within 5pts +/- of where I’d peg them to. Be hard for that many to hit PPG tho, but they can all do it.
12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA
C: Horvat, Trocheck
LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
Util: Meier (LW, RW)
G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll
I do this every year.
My database is from 6 guides (we have 3 from Quebec that you may have hard time finding outside of Q ) with ajustments based on potentiel and ceiling.
I find that this correct the aberrations from guide to guide.
It's a lot of work but I think it worths it.
I won't post all my list here, but there are the players I have at 70 points and over:
Sidney Crosby 93
Connor McDavid 91
Patrick Kane 91
Jamie Benn 89
Tyler Seguin 83
John Tavares 82
Johnny Gaudreau 81
Alexander Ovechkin 81
Vladimir Tarasenko 79
Erik Karlsson 78
Nicklas Backstrom 78
Joe Pavelski 77
Evgeny Kuznetsov 76
Evgeni Malkin 76
Claude Giroux 75
Ryan Getzlaf 74
Nikita Kucherov 74
Anze Kopitar 73
Steven Stamkos 73
Blake Wheeler 73
Artemi Panarin 73
Jack Eichel 71
Joe Thornton 71
Filip Forsberg 70
Corey Perry 70
Ryan Johansen 70
Taylor Hall 70
Keeper league (12 teams) - keep 6 (+ NHL team is auto keep)
Weekly lineup: 1T, 9F, 4D, 1G
Points only:
Forwards & Dmen: goal (1), assist (1)
Goalies: win (2), otl/sol (1), shutout (2)
Team: win (2), otl/sol (1)
Only 2 FA pickups for the season (remaining: 0)
[T] Edmonton
[F] Panarin, Pettersson, Bedard
[D] Heiskanen, Theodore, Dobson
[G]
Which of the guides adjust for games played? I know Dobber's list does it but I doubt many of the others do. That makes these kind of average listings lose some of their value. It is a great project and thank you all for sharing but just be sure to take the information like any information and be sure you understand exactly what the numbers are saying.
Personally, I think the masses have Gaudreau, Tarasenko, Kucherov, and Panarin too high - among guys in the 70+ range.
I do agree that an averaged list of several experts is a great way to build a list.
I used to do my own lists (Dobber and the 3 magazines you get here in Western Canada).
I just don't have time anymore, so I lean on Dobber's Guide.
18 Team Full Keeper. Total points.
Start 10 F, 3 D, 1 UTIL, 1 G
3 Points: SHO, 2 Points: G, PPA, SHG, SHA, W, 1 Point: A, PPG, GWG, .25 Points: BLK, .1 Points: FOW, SOG, SV, .15 Points: HIT, -.05 Points: FOL, -.15 Points: GA
Forwards: Backstrom, Barre-Boulet, Beauvillier, Caufield, Dickinson, Donato, Donskoi, Gourde, Greenway, Horvat, Kase, Keller, Kuznetsov, MacKinnon, Marchessault, J. T. Miller, Sikura, Tarasenko, Zegras
Defense: Barrie, Brannstrom, Cholowski, Honka, Matheson, Pulock, Shattenkirk
Goal: Dubnyk, Jarry, Markstrom, Merzlikins
2014-15, 2016-17 MHL Champions!
There are a small handful of projections that I object with, but overall, this is a very, very strong list.
Keeper league (12 teams) - keep 6 (+ NHL team is auto keep)
Weekly lineup: 1T, 9F, 4D, 1G
Points only:
Forwards & Dmen: goal (1), assist (1)
Goalies: win (2), otl/sol (1), shutout (2)
Team: win (2), otl/sol (1)
Only 2 FA pickups for the season (remaining: 0)
[T] Edmonton
[F] Panarin, Pettersson, Bedard
[D] Heiskanen, Theodore, Dobson
[G]
Great list! Its a good thing we have computers and the internet... could you imagine trying to come up with such a list without these two tools.
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