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    Default 2016/17 Dobber Pro - Wales League

    Welcome to the Dobber Pro Wales!

    This thread is created to enable managers (and even some non-managers) to chat about the league in general, the draft, teams and even smack talk. The one request is that any league questions/issues remain on the league board.

    A reminder of the settings:

    Yahoo, One-year, Rotisserie
    Daily lineups, Weekly FAAB w/ Continual rolling list tiebreak
    No maximum moves/trades, Next day processing
    G,A,+/-,PPP,SOG,Hits,W,GAA,SV
    4C,4L,4R,6D,2G,5BN,2IR,1IR+

    The live draft is set for Sunday, October 2nd at 9pm Eastern.


    Here is the draft order (team names to be updated when required):

    1. Hockey Down Under (Maaaasquito)
    2. Vancouver Beavers (jcairns)
    3. The Jobbers (rooneypoo)
    4. Steve's Super Team (hipcheck)
    5. Lord of the Rinks (LordoftheRinks)
    6. Yellow Dogs (duntroon68)
    7. The Comish (The Comish)
    8. Team Autodraft (MCMackerel)
    9. AnzemarkSethGaudreau (Pengwin7)
    10. Kofax's Awesome Team (Kofax)
    11. Arjay's Okay Team (Johner)
    12. TBA (rattus rattus)
    13. robi's Rad Team (robi)

    Draft results will be posted and I encourage managers to share their thoughts post-draft and throughout the season.

    Good luck and have fun!

    Draft results (1/2): (some names cut off as I copied directly from draft page but should be easy to identify)

    Round 1
    1 Alex Ovechkin(Was - LW) Hockey Down ...
    2 Jamie Benn(Dal - LW) Vancouver Be...
    3 Sidney Crosby(Pit - C) The Jobbers
    4 Nikita Kucherov(TB - RW) Steve's Supe...
    5 Braden Holtby(Was - G) Lord of the ...
    6 Erik Karlsson(Ott - D) Yellow Dogs
    7 Brent Burns(SJ - D) The Comish
    8 Patrick Kane(Chi - RW) Team Autodraft
    9 Connor McDavid(Edm - C) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 John Tavares(NYI - C) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Carey Price(Mon - G) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Ben Bishop(TB - G) TBA
    13 Jonathan Quick(LA - G) robi's Rad Team

    Round 2
    1 Steven Stamkos(TB - C) robi's Rad Team
    2 P.K. Subban(Nsh - D) TBA
    3 Vladimir Tarasenko(StL - RW) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Dustin Byfuglien(Wpg - D) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Johnny Gaudreau(Cgy - LW) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Joe Pavelski(SJ - C,RW) Team Autodraft
    7 Martin Jones(SJ - G) The Comish
    8 Tyler Seguin(Dal - C) Yellow Dogs
    9 Claude Giroux(Phi - C) Lord of the ...
    10 Evgeni Malkin(Pit - C) Steve's Supe...
    11 Cory Schneider(NJ - G) The Jobbers
    12 Oliver Ekman-Larsson(Ari - D) Vancouver Be...
    13 Pekka Rinne(Nsh - G) Hockey Down ...

    Round 3
    1 Henrik Lundqvist(NYR - G) Hockey Down ...
    2 Kris Letang(Pit - D) Vancouver Be...
    3 Corey Crawford(Chi - G) The Jobbers
    4 Blake Wheeler(Wpg - RW) Steve's Supe...
    5 Tuukka Rask(Bos - G) Lord of the ...
    6 Jake Allen(StL - G) Yellow Dogs
    7 Corey Perry(Anh - RW) The Comish
    8 Evgeny Kuznetsov(Was - C) Team Autodraft
    9 Logan Couture(SJ - C) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Phil Kessel(Pit - RW) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Shea Weber(Mon - D) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Milan Lucic(Edm - LW) TBA
    13 Max Pacioretty(Mon - LW) robi's Rad Team

    Round 4
    1 John Gibson(Anh - G) robi's Rad Team
    2 Nathan MacKinnon(Col - C,RW) TBA
    3 Devan Dubnyk(Min - G) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Roberto Luongo(Fla - G) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Anze Kopitar(LA - C) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Artemi Panarin(Chi - LW) Team Autodraft
    7 Filip Forsberg(Nsh - LW) The Comish
    8 Taylor Hall(NJ - LW) Yellow Dogs
    9 Wayne Simmonds(Phi - RW) Lord of the ...
    10 Brad Marchand(Bos - LW) Steve's Supe...
    11 Roman Josi(Nsh - D) The Jobbers
    12 Drew Doughty(LA - D) Vancouver Be...
    13 Nicklas Backstrom(Was - C) Hockey Down ...

    Round 5
    1 Ryan Getzlaf(Anh - C) Hockey Down ...
    2 John Carlson(Was - D) Vancouver Be...
    3 Brayden Schenn(Phi - C,LW) The Jobbers
    4 John Klingberg(Dal - D) Steve's Supe...
    5 Ryan Johansen(Nsh - C) Lord of the ...
    6 Mark Giordano(Cgy - D) Yellow Dogs
    7 Jakub Voracek(Phi - LW,RW) The Comish
    8 James Neal(Nsh - RW) Team Autodraft
    9 Patrice Bergeron(Bos - C) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Dougie Hamilton(Cgy - D) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Victor Hedman(TB - D) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Alexander Radulov(Mon - RW) TBA
    13 Tyler Toffoli(LA - C,RW) robi's Rad Team

    Round 6
    1 Jack Eichel(Buf - C) robi's Rad Team
    2 Keith Yandle(Fla - D) TBA
    3 Justin Faulk(Car - D) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Jonathan Huberdeau(Fla - LW) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Shayne Gostisbehere(Phi - D) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Joe Thornton(SJ - C) Team Autodraft
    7 Gabriel Landeskog(Col - LW) The Comish
    8 Jordan Eberle(Edm - RW) Yellow Dogs
    9 Kevin Shattenkirk(StL - D) Lord of the ...
    10 Marc-Andre Fleury(Pit - G) Steve's Supe...
    11 David Backes(Bos - RW) The Jobbers
    12 Mark Scheifele(Wpg - C) Vancouver Be...
    13 Evander Kane(Buf - LW) Hockey Down ...

    Round 7
    1 Torey Krug(Bos - D) Hockey Down ...
    2 Cam Talbot(Edm - G) Vancouver Be...
    3 Patric Hornqvist(Pit - RW) The Jobbers
    4 Aaron Ekblad(Fla - D) Steve's Supe...
    5 Zach Parise(Min - LW) Lord of the ...
    6 Kyle Okposo(Buf - RW) Yellow Dogs
    7 Tyson Barrie(Col - D) The Comish
    8 Aleksander Barkov(Fla - C) Team Autodraft
    9 Duncan Keith(Chi - D) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Brian Elliott(Cgy - G) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Matt Duchene(Col - C) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Sergei Bobrovsky(Cls - G) TBA
    13 T.J. Oshie(Was - RW) robi's Rad Team

    Round 8
    1 Andrew Ladd(NYI - LW) robi's Rad Team
    2 Colton Parayko(StL - D) TBA
    3 Sean Monahan(Cgy - C) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Jonathan Toews(Chi - C) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Mark Stone(Ott - RW) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Daniel Sedin(Van - LW) Team Autodraft
    7 Jaroslav Halak(NYI - G) The Comish
    8 Rasmus Ristolainen(Buf - D) Yellow Dogs
    9 Jake Muzzin(LA - D) Lord of the ...
    10 Jason Spezza(Dal - C) Steve's Supe...
    11 Alex Galchenyuk(Mon - C) The Jobbers
    12 James van Riemsdyk(Tor - LW) Vancouver Be...
    13 Jeff Carter(LA - C) Hockey Down ...

    Round 9
    1 Boone Jenner(Cls - C,LW) Hockey Down ...
    2 Bobby Ryan(Ott - RW) Vancouver Be...
    3 Ryan Suter(Min - D) The Jobbers
    4 Brandon Saad(Cls - LW,RW) Steve's Supe...
    5 Kyle Palmieri(NJ - RW) Lord of the ...
    6 Tyler Johnson(TB - C) Yellow Dogs
    7 Alex Pietrangelo(StL - D) The Comish
    8 Matt Murray(Pit - G) Team Autodraft
    9 Dylan Larkin(Det - C,RW) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Sami Vatanen(Anh - D) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Derek Stepan(NYR - C) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Jonathan Drouin(TB - LW) TBA
    13 Ryan McDonagh(NYR - D) robi's Rad Team

    Round 10
    1 Rick Nash(NYR - LW) robi's Rad Team
    2 Ryan O'Reilly(Buf - C,LW) TBA
    3 Patrick Sharp(Dal - LW,RW) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Auston Matthews(Tor - C) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Mike Hoffman(Ott - LW) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Alexander Steen(StL - LW) Team Autodraft
    7 Derick Brassard(Ott - C) The Comish
    8 Jaden Schwartz(StL - LW) Yellow Dogs
    9 Matt Niskanen(Was - D) Lord of the ...
    10 Loui Eriksson(Van - LW) Steve's Supe...
    11 Ryan Kesler(Anh - C) The Jobbers
    12 Nazem Kadri(Tor - C) Vancouver Be...
    13 Brent Seabrook(Chi - D) Hockey Down ...

    Round 11
    1 Dion Phaneuf(Ott - D) Hockey Down ...
    2 Patrik Laine(Wpg - RW) Vancouver Be...
    3 Chris Kreider(NYR - LW) The Jobbers
    4 Vincent Trocheck(Fla - C) Steve's Supe...
    5 Mika Zibanejad(NYR - C,RW) Lord of the ...
    6 Brendan Gallagher(Mon - RW) Yellow Dogs
    7 Mats Zuccarello(NYR - RW) The Comish
    8 Petr Mrazek(Det - G) Team Autodraft
    9 Seth Jones(Cls - D) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Marc-Edouard Vlasic(SJ - D) Kofax's Awes...
    11 David Krejci(Bos - C) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Gustav Nyquist(Det - LW,RW) TBA
    13 Anton Stralman(TB - D) robi's Rad Team

    Round 12
    1 Morgan Rielly(Tor - D) robi's Rad Team
    2 Semyon Varlamov(Col - G) TBA
    3 Max Domi(Ari - LW) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Ondrej Palat(TB - LW) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Justin Abdelkader(Det - LW,RW) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Jussi Jokinen(Fla - LW) Team Autodraft
    7 Steve Mason(Phi - G) The Comish
    8 Frederik Andersen(Tor - G) Yellow Dogs
    9 Jeff Skinner(Car - LW) Lord of the ...
    10 Cam Atkinson(Cls - RW) Steve's Supe...
    11 Nick Leddy(NYI - D) The Jobbers
    12 Mike Smith(Ari - G) Vancouver Be...
    13 Patrick Marleau(SJ - C,LW) Hockey Down ...
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    Draft results (2/2):

    Round 13
    1 David Perron(StL - LW,RW) Hockey Down ...
    2 Kyle Turris(Ott - C) Vancouver Be...
    3 Craig Anderson(Ott - G) The Jobbers
    4 Alec Martinez(LA - D) Steve's Supe...
    5 Troy Brouwer(Cgy - RW) Lord of the ...
    6 Brandon Dubinsky(Cls - C) Yellow Dogs
    7 Mike Green(Det - D) The Comish
    8 Jaromir Jagr(Fla - RW) Team Autodraft
    9 Antti Niemi(Dal - G) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Robby Fabbri(StL - C,LW) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Henrik Zetterberg(Det - C,LW) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Jakob Silfverberg(Anh - RW) TBA
    13 Marian Hossa(Chi - RW) robi's Rad Team

    Round 14
    1 Andrei Markov(Mon - D) robi's Rad Team
    2 Oscar Klefbom(Edm - D) TBA
    3 Adam Henrique(NJ - C) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Nikolaj Ehlers(Wpg - LW,RW) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Kari Lehtonen(Dal - G) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Justin Williams(Was - RW) Team Autodraft
    7 Henrik Sedin(Van - C) The Comish
    8 Anders Lee(NYI - LW) Yellow Dogs
    9 Frans Nielsen(Det - C) Lord of the ...
    10 Robin Lehner(Buf - G) Steve's Supe...
    11 Michael Stone(Ari - D) The Jobbers
    12 Jordan Staal(Car - C,LW) Vancouver Be...
    13 Ryan Miller(Van - G) Hockey Down ...

    Round 15
    1 Cam Ward(Car - G) Hockey Down ...
    2 Tomas Hertl(SJ - C) Vancouver Be...
    3 Thomas Greiss(NYI - G) The Jobbers
    4 Anthony Duclair(Ari - LW,RW) Steve's Supe...
    5 Bryan Little(Wpg - C) Lord of the ...
    6 Nick Foligno(Cls - LW) Yellow Dogs
    7 Leon Draisaitl(Edm - C) The Comish
    8 Hampus Lindholm(Anh - D) Team Autodraft
    9 Andrei Vasilevskiy(TB - G) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Teuvo Teravainen(Car - LW,RW) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Leo Komarov(Tor - C,RW) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins(Edm - C) TBA
    13 Chris Kunitz(Pit - LW) robi's Rad Team

    Round 16
    1 Jonathan Bernier(Anh - G) robi's Rad Team
    2 Radko Gudas(Phi - D) TBA
    3 Zdeno Chara(Bos - D) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Mikkel Boedker(SJ - LW) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Chad Johnson(Cgy - G) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Matt Dumba(Min - D) Team Autodraft
    7 Tomas Tatar(Det - LW) The Comish
    8 Paul Stastny(StL - C) Yellow Dogs
    9 J.T. Miller(NYR - C,LW) Lord of the ...
    10 Sam Reinhart(Buf - C,RW) Steve's Supe...
    11 Scott Hartnell(Cls - LW) The Jobbers
    12 Reilly Smith(Fla - RW) Vancouver Be...
    13 Jarome Iginla(Col - RW) Hockey Down ...

    Round 17
    1 Shane Doan(Ari - RW) Hockey Down ...
    2 Johnny Boychuk(NYI - D) Vancouver Be...
    3 T.J. Brodie(Cgy - D) The Jobbers
    4 Jiri Hudler(Dal - C,RW) Steve's Supe...
    5 Michal Neuvirth(Phi - G) Lord of the ...
    6 James Reimer(Fla - G) Yellow Dogs
    7 Niklas Kronwall(Det - D) The Comish
    8 Cam Fowler(Anh - D) Team Autodraft
    9 Matt Beleskey(Bos - LW) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Mattias Ekholm(Nsh - D) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Connor Hellebuyck(Wpg - G) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Nino Niederreiter(Min - RW) TBA
    13 Tomas Plekanec(Mon - C) robi's Rad Team

    Round 18
    1 Elias Lindholm(Car - C,RW) robi's Rad Team
    2 Adam Larsson(Edm - D) TBA
    3 Michael Cammalleri(NJ - LW) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Ondrej Pavelec(Wpg - G) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Jimmy Howard(Det - G) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Olli Maatta(Pit - D) Team Autodraft
    7 Ryan Spooner(Bos - C) The Comish
    8 Charlie Coyle(Min - C,RW) Yellow Dogs
    9 Tanner Pearson(LA - LW) Lord of the ...
    10 Jake Gardiner(Tor - D) Steve's Supe...
    11 Marcus Johansson(Was - LW,RW) The Jobbers
    12 Tyler Ennis(Buf - C,LW) Vancouver Be...
    13 Erik Johnson(Col - D) Hockey Down ...

    Round 19
    1 Martin Hanzal(Ari - C) Hockey Down ...
    2 Calvin Pickard(Col - G) Vancouver Be...
    3 Cody Ceci(Ott - D) The Jobbers
    4 Andre Burakovsky(Was - LW) Steve's Supe...
    5 Alexander Edler(Van - D) Lord of the ...
    6 Zach Bogosian(Buf - D) Yellow Dogs
    7 David Pastrnak(Bos - RW) The Comish
    8 Ryan Pulock(NYI - D) Team Autodraft
    9 Sam Bennett(Cgy - C) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Eric Staal(Min - C) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Craig Smith(Nsh - RW) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Kris Versteeg(Edm - LW,RW) TBA
    13 Travis Hamonic(NYI - D) robi's Rad Team

    Round 20
    1 Kevin Hayes(NYR - RW) robi's Rad Team
    2 Nail Yakupov(Edm - RW) TBA
    3 Jacob Trouba(Wpg - D) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Alex Goligoski(Ari - D) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Scott Darling(Chi - G) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Kris Russell(Dal - D) Team Autodraft
    7 Carl Soderberg(Col - C) The Comish
    8 David Savard(Cls - D) Yellow Dogs
    9 Rickard Rakell(Anh - C) Lord of the ...
    10 Noah Hanifin(Car - D) Steve's Supe...
    11 Jean-Gabriel Pageau(Ott - C) The Jobbers
    12 Cal Clutterbuck(NYI - RW) Vancouver Be...
    13 Ryan Callahan(TB - RW) Hockey Down ...

    Round 21
    1 Dustin Brown(LA - LW,RW) Hockey Down ...
    2 Nick Holden(NYR - D) Vancouver Be...
    3 Ryan Ellis(Nsh - D) The Jobbers
    4 Jesse Puljujarvi(Edm - RW) Steve's Supe...
    5 Tyler Myers(Wpg - D) Lord of the ...
    6 Damon Severson(NJ - D) Yellow Dogs
    7 Brock Nelson(NYI - LW) The Comish
    8 Joonas Donskoi(SJ - RW) Team Autodraft
    9 Ryan Strome(NYI - RW) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 William Nylander(Tor - C,RW) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Jared Spurgeon(Min - D) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Mikko Koivu(Min - C) TBA
    13 Jack Johnson(Cls - D) robi's Rad Team

    Round 22
    1 Jeff Zatkoff(LA - G) robi's Rad Team
    2 Matt Martin(Tor - LW) TBA
    3 Thomas Vanek(Det - LW,RW) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Pierre-Alexandr Parenteau(NYI - RW) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Antti Raanta(NYR - G) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Dylan Strome(Ari - C) Team Autodraft
    7 Dmitry Orlov(Was - D) The Comish
    8 Carter Hutton(StL - G) Yellow Dogs
    9 Ivan Provorov(Phi - D) Lord of the ...
    10 Carl Hagelin(Pit - LW) Steve's Supe...
    11 Mathieu Perreault(Wpg - C,LW) The Jobbers
    12 Al Montoya(Mon - G) Vancouver Be...
    13 Dan Girardi(NYR - D) Hockey Down ...

    Round 23
    1 Andrej Sekera(Edm - D) Hockey Down ...
    2 Louis Domingue(Ari - G) Vancouver Be...
    3 Jason Pominville(Min - RW) The Jobbers
    4 Brian Campbell(Chi - D) Steve's Supe...
    5 Nikita Zaitsev(Tor - D) Lord of the ...
    6 Mitchell Marner(Tor - C) Yellow Dogs
    7 Benoit Pouliot(Edm - LW) The Comish
    8 Matt Moulson(Buf - LW) Team Autodraft
    9 Michael Del Zotto(Phi - D) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Alex Killorn(TB - C) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Antoine Roussel(Dal - LW) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Nick Bjugstad(Fla - C) TBA
    13 Jimmy Vesey(NYR - LW) robi's Rad Team

    Round 24
    1 Marian Gaborik(LA - RW) robi's Rad Team
    2 Lars Eller(Was - C) TBA
    3 Mark Streit(Phi - D) Arjay's Okay...
    4 Tommy Wingels(SJ - C,RW) Kofax's Awes...
    5 Philipp Grubauer(Was - G) AnzemarkSeth...
    6 Dennis Wideman(Cgy - D) Team Autodraft
    7 Jacob Markstrom(Van - G) The Comish
    8 Sean Couturier(Phi - C) Yellow Dogs
    9 Sebastian Aho(Car - RW) Lord of the ...
    10 Andrew Hammond(Ott - G) Steve's Supe...
    11 Mikael Granlund(Min - C) The Jobbers
    12 Oliver Bjorkstrand(Cls - RW) Vancouver Be...
    13 James Wisniewski(TB - D) Hockey Down ...

    Round 25
    1 Mike Fisher(Nsh - C) Hockey Down ...
    2 Eddie Lack(Car - G) Vancouver Be...
    3 Drew Stafford(Wpg - RW) The Jobbers
    4 Zachary Werenski(Cls - D) Steve's Supe...
    5 Brayden McNabb(LA - D) Lord of the ...
    6 Jamie McGinn(Ari - LW) Yellow Dogs
    7 Radim Vrbata(Ari - RW) The Comish
    8 Joonas Korpisalo(Cls - G) Team Autodraft
    9 Blake Comeau(Col - LW) AnzemarkSeth...
    10 Trevor Daley(Pit - D) Kofax's Awes...
    11 Lee Stempniak(Car - LW,RW) Arjay's Okay...
    12 Michael Matheson(Fla - D) TBA
    13 Jason Demers(Fla - D) robi's Rad Team
    Last edited by horrorfan; October 3, 2016 at 2:15 PM.

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    Draft tonight! Hope you're all ready!

    Good luck and have fun!

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    Hockey Down Under
    1. (1) Alex Ovechkin (Was - LW)
    2. (26) Pekka Rinne (Nsh - G)
    3. (27) Henrik Lundqvist (NYR - G)
    4. (52) Nicklas Backstrom (Was - C)
    5. (53) Ryan Getzlaf (Anh - C)
    6. (78) Evander Kane (Buf - LW)
    7. (79) Torey Krug (Bos - D)
    8. (104) Jeff Carter (LA - C)
    9. (105) Boone Jenner (Cls - C,LW)
    10. (130) Brent Seabrook (Chi - D)
    11. (131) Dion Phaneuf (Ott - D)
    12. (156) Patrick Marleau (SJ - C,LW)
    13. (157) David Perron (StL - LW,RW)
    14. (182) Ryan Miller (Van - G)
    15. (183) Cam Ward (Car - G)
    16. (208) Jarome Iginla (Col - RW)
    17. (209) Shane Doan (Ari - RW)
    18. (234) Erik Johnson (Col - D)
    19. (235) Martin Hanzal (Ari - C)
    20. (260) Ryan Callahan (TB - RW)
    21. (261) Dustin Brown (LA - LW,RW)
    22. (286) Dan Girardi (NYR - D)
    23. (287) Andrej Sekera (Edm - D)
    24. (312) James Wisniewski (TB - D)
    25. (313) Mike Fisher (Nsh - C)

    - - - Updated - - -

    Vancouver Beavers
    1. (2) Jamie Benn (Dal - LW)
    2. (25) Oliver Ekman-Larsson (Ari - D)
    3. (28) Kris Letang (Pit - D)
    4. (51) Drew Doughty (LA - D)
    5. (54) John Carlson (Was - D)
    6. (77) Mark Scheifele (Wpg - C)
    7. (80) Cam Talbot (Edm - G)
    8. (103) James van Riemsdyk (Tor - LW)
    9. (106) Bobby Ryan (Ott - RW)
    10. (129) Nazem Kadri (Tor - C)
    11. (132) Patrik Laine (Wpg - RW)
    12. (155) Mike Smith (Ari - G)
    13. (158) Kyle Turris (Ott - C)
    14. (181) Jordan Staal (Car - C,LW)
    15. (184) Tomas Hertl (SJ - C)
    16. (207) Reilly Smith (Fla - RW)
    17. (210) Johnny Boychuk (NYI - D)
    18. (233) Tyler Ennis (Buf - C,LW)
    19. (236) Calvin Pickard (Col - G)
    20. (259) Cal Clutterbuck (NYI - RW)
    21. (262) Nick Holden (NYR - D)
    22. (285) Al Montoya (Mon - G)
    23. (288) Louis Domingue (Ari - G)
    24. (311) Oliver Bjorkstrand (Cls - RW)
    25. (314) Eddie Lack (Car - G)

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    The Jobbers
    1. (3) Sidney Crosby (Pit - C)
    2. (24) Cory Schneider (NJ - G)
    3. (29) Corey Crawford (Chi - G)
    4. (50) Roman Josi (Nsh - D)
    5. (55) Brayden Schenn (Phi - C,LW)
    6. (76) David Backes (Bos - RW)
    7. (81) Patric Hornqvist (Pit - RW)
    8. (102) Alex Galchenyuk (Mon - C)
    9. (107) Ryan Suter (Min - D)
    10. (128) Ryan Kesler (Anh - C)
    11. (133) Chris Kreider (NYR - LW)
    12. (154) Nick Leddy (NYI - D)
    13. (159) Craig Anderson (Ott - G)
    14. (180) Michael Stone (Ari - D)
    15. (185) Thomas Greiss (NYI - G)
    16. (206) Scott Hartnell (Cls - LW)
    17. (211) T.J. Brodie (Cgy - D)
    18. (232) Marcus Johansson (Was - LW,RW)
    19. (237) Cody Ceci (Ott - D)
    20. (258) Jean-Gabriel Pageau (Ott - C)
    21. (263) Ryan Ellis (Nsh - D)
    22. (284) Mathieu Perreault (Wpg - C,LW)
    23. (289) Jason Pominville (Min - RW)
    24. (310) Mikael Granlund (Min - C)
    25. (315) Drew Stafford (Wpg - RW)

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    Steve's Super Team
    1. (4) Nikita Kucherov (TB - RW)
    2. (23) Evgeni Malkin (Pit - C)
    3. (30) Blake Wheeler (Wpg - RW)
    4. (49) Brad Marchand (Bos - LW)
    5. (56) John Klingberg (Dal - D)
    6. (75) Marc-Andre Fleury (Pit - G)
    7. (82) Aaron Ekblad (Fla - D)
    8. (101) Jason Spezza (Dal - C)
    9. (108) Brandon Saad (Cls - LW,RW)
    10. (127) Loui Eriksson (Van - LW)
    11. (134) Vincent Trocheck (Fla - C)
    12. (153) Cam Atkinson (Cls - RW)
    13. (160) Alec Martinez (LA - D)
    14. (179) Robin Lehner (Buf - G)
    15. (186) Anthony Duclair (Ari - LW,RW)
    16. (205) Sam Reinhart (Buf - C,RW)
    17. (212) Jiri Hudler (Dal - C,RW)
    18. (231) Jake Gardiner (Tor - D)
    19. (238) Andre Burakovsky (Was - LW)
    20. (257) Noah Hanifin (Car - D)
    21. (264) Jesse Puljujarvi (Edm - RW)
    22. (283) Carl Hagelin (Pit - LW)
    23. (290) Brian Campbell (Chi - D)
    24. (309) Andrew Hammond (Ott - G)
    25. (316) Zachary Werenski (Cls - D)

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    Lord of the Rinks
    1. (5) Braden Holtby (Was - G)
    2. (22) Claude Giroux (Phi - C)
    3. (31) Tuukka Rask (Bos - G)
    4. (48) Wayne Simmonds (Phi - RW)
    5. (57) Ryan Johansen (Nsh - C)
    6. (74) Kevin Shattenkirk (StL - D)
    7. (83) Zach Parise (Min - LW)
    8. (100) Jake Muzzin (LA - D)
    9. (109) Kyle Palmieri (NJ - RW)
    10. (126) Matt Niskanen (Was - D)
    11. (135) Mika Zibanejad (NYR - C,RW)
    12. (152) Jeff Skinner (Car - LW)
    13. (161) Troy Brouwer (Cgy - RW)
    14. (178) Frans Nielsen (Det - C)
    15. (187) Bryan Little (Wpg - C)
    16. (204) J.T. Miller (NYR - C,LW)
    17. (213) Michal Neuvirth (Phi - G)
    18. (230) Tanner Pearson (LA - LW)
    19. (239) Alexander Edler (Van - D)
    20. (256) Rickard Rakell (Anh - C)
    21. (265) Tyler Myers (Wpg - D)
    22. (282) Ivan Provorov (Phi - D)
    23. (291) Nikita Zaitsev (Tor - D)
    24. (308) Sebastian Aho (Car - RW)
    25. (317) Brayden McNabb (LA - D)

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    Yellow Dogs
    1. (6) Erik Karlsson (Ott - D)
    2. (21) Tyler Seguin (Dal - C)
    3. (32) Jake Allen (StL - G)
    4. (47) Taylor Hall (NJ - LW)
    5. (58) Mark Giordano (Cgy - D)
    6. (73) Jordan Eberle (Edm - RW)
    7. (84) Kyle Okposo (Buf - RW)
    8. (99) Rasmus Ristolainen (Buf - D)
    9. (110) Tyler Johnson (TB - C)
    10. (125) Jaden Schwartz (StL - LW)
    11. (136) Brendan Gallagher (Mon - RW)
    12. (151) Frederik Andersen (Tor - G)
    13. (162) Brandon Dubinsky (Cls - C)
    14. (177) Anders Lee (NYI - LW)
    15. (188) Nick Foligno (Cls - LW)
    16. (203) Paul Stastny (StL - C)
    17. (214) James Reimer (Fla - G)
    18. (229) Charlie Coyle (Min - C,RW)
    19. (240) Zach Bogosian (Buf - D)
    20. (255) David Savard (Cls - D)
    21. (266) Damon Severson (NJ - D)
    22. (281) Carter Hutton (StL - G)
    23. (292) Mitchell Marner (Tor - C)
    24. (307) Sean Couturier (Phi - C)
    25. (318) Jamie McGinn (Ari - LW)

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    The Comish
    1. (7) Brent Burns (SJ - D)
    2. (20) Martin Jones (SJ - G)
    3. (33) Corey Perry (Anh - RW)
    4. (46) Filip Forsberg (Nsh - LW)
    5. (59) Jakub Voracek (Phi - LW,RW)
    6. (72) Gabriel Landeskog (Col - LW)
    7. (85) Tyson Barrie (Col - D)
    8. (98) Jaroslav Halak (NYI - G)
    9. (111) Alex Pietrangelo (StL - D)
    10. (124) Derick Brassard (Ott - C)
    11. (137) Mats Zuccarello (NYR - RW)
    12. (150) Steve Mason (Phi - G)
    13. (163) Mike Green (Det - D)
    14. (176) Henrik Sedin (Van - C)
    15. (189) Leon Draisaitl (Edm - C)
    16. (202) Tomas Tatar (Det - LW)
    17. (215) Niklas Kronwall (Det - D)
    18. (228) Ryan Spooner (Bos - C)
    19. (241) David Pastrnak (Bos - RW)
    20. (254) Carl Soderberg (Col - C)
    21. (267) Brock Nelson (NYI - LW)
    22. (280) Dmitry Orlov (Was - D)
    23. (293) Benoit Pouliot (Edm - LW)
    24. (306) Jacob Markstrom (Van - G)
    25. (319) Radim Vrbata (Ari - RW)

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    Team Autodraft
    1. (8) Patrick Kane (Chi - RW)
    2. (19) Joe Pavelski (SJ - C,RW)
    3. (34) Evgeny Kuznetsov (Was - C)
    4. (45) Artemi Panarin (Chi - LW)
    5. (60) James Neal (Nsh - RW)
    6. (71) Joe Thornton (SJ - C)
    7. (86) Aleksander Barkov (Fla - C)
    8. (97) Daniel Sedin (Van - LW)
    9. (112) Matt Murray (Pit - G)
    10. (123) Alexander Steen (StL - LW)
    11. (138) Petr Mrazek (Det - G)
    12. (149) Jussi Jokinen (Fla - LW)
    13. (164) Jaromir Jagr (Fla - RW)
    14. (175) Justin Williams (Was - RW)
    15. (190) Hampus Lindholm (Anh - D)
    16. (201) Matt Dumba (Min - D)
    17. (216) Cam Fowler (Anh - D)
    18. (227) Olli Maatta (Pit - D)
    19. (242) Ryan Pulock (NYI - D)
    20. (253) Kris Russell (Dal - D)
    21. (268) Joonas Donskoi (SJ - RW)
    22. (279) Dylan Strome (Ari - C)
    23. (294) Matt Moulson (Buf - LW)
    24. (305) Dennis Wideman (Cgy - D)
    25. (320) Joonas Korpisalo (Cls - G)

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    AnzemarkSethGaudreau
    1. (9) Connor McDavid (Edm - C)
    2. (18) Johnny Gaudreau (Cgy - LW)
    3. (35) Logan Couture (SJ - C)
    4. (44) Anze Kopitar (LA - C)
    5. (61) Patrice Bergeron (Bos - C)
    6. (70) Shayne Gostisbehere (Phi - D)
    7. (87) Duncan Keith (Chi - D)
    8. (96) Mark Stone (Ott - RW)
    9. (113) Dylan Larkin (Det - C,RW)
    10. (122) Mike Hoffman (Ott - LW)
    11. (139) Seth Jones (Cls - D)
    12. (148) Justin Abdelkader (Det - LW,RW)
    13. (165) Antti Niemi (Dal - G)
    14. (174) Kari Lehtonen (Dal - G)
    15. (191) Andrei Vasilevskiy (TB - G)
    16. (200) Chad Johnson (Cgy - G)
    17. (217) Matt Beleskey (Bos - LW)
    18. (226) Jimmy Howard (Det - G)
    19. (243) Sam Bennett (Cgy - C)
    20. (252) Scott Darling (Chi - G)
    21. (269) Ryan Strome (NYI - RW)
    22. (278) Antti Raanta (NYR - G)
    23. (295) Michael Del Zotto (Phi - D)
    24. (304) Philipp Grubauer (Was - G)
    25. (321) Blake Comeau (Col - LW)

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    Kofax's Awesome Team
    1. (10) John Tavares (NYI - C)
    2. (17) Dustin Byfuglien (Wpg - D)
    3. (36) Phil Kessel (Pit - RW)
    4. (43) Roberto Luongo (Fla - G)
    5. (62) Dougie Hamilton (Cgy - D)
    6. (69) Jonathan Huberdeau (Fla - LW)
    7. (88) Brian Elliott (Cgy - G)
    8. (95) Jonathan Toews (Chi - C)
    9. (114) Sami Vatanen (Anh - D)
    10. (121) Auston Matthews (Tor - C)
    11. (140) Marc-Edouard Vlasic (SJ - D)
    12. (147) Ondrej Palat (TB - LW)
    13. (166) Robby Fabbri (StL - C,LW)
    14. (173) Nikolaj Ehlers (Wpg - LW,RW)
    15. (192) Teuvo Teravainen (Car - LW,RW)
    16. (199) Mikkel Boedker (SJ - LW)
    17. (218) Mattias Ekholm (Nsh - D)
    18. (225) Ondrej Pavelec (Wpg - G)
    19. (244) Eric Staal (Min - C)
    20. (251) Alex Goligoski (Ari - D)
    21. (270) William Nylander (Tor - C,RW)
    22. (277) Pierre-Alexandr Parenteau (NYI - RW)
    23. (296) Alex Killorn (TB - C)
    24. (303) Tommy Wingels (SJ - C,RW)
    25. (322) Trevor Daley (Pit - D)
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    Arjay's Okay Team
    1. (11) Carey Price (Mon - G)
    2. (16) Vladimir Tarasenko (StL - RW)
    3. (37) Shea Weber (Mon - D)
    4. (42) Devan Dubnyk (Min - G)
    5. (63) Victor Hedman (TB - D)
    6. (68) Justin Faulk (Car - D)
    7. (89) Matt Duchene (Col - C)
    8. (94) Sean Monahan (Cgy - C)
    9. (115) Derek Stepan (NYR - C)
    10. (120) Patrick Sharp (Dal - LW,RW)
    11. (141) David Krejci (Bos - C)
    12. (146) Max Domi (Ari - LW)
    13. (167) Henrik Zetterberg (Det - C,LW)
    14. (172) Adam Henrique (NJ - C)
    15. (193) Leo Komarov (Tor - C,RW)
    16. (198) Zdeno Chara (Bos - D)
    17. (219) Connor Hellebuyck (Wpg - G)
    18. (224) Michael Cammalleri (NJ - LW)
    19. (245) Craig Smith (Nsh - RW)
    20. (250) Jacob Trouba (Wpg - D)
    21. (271) Jared Spurgeon (Min - D)
    22. (276) Thomas Vanek (Det - LW,RW)
    23. (297) Antoine Roussel (Dal - LW)
    24. (302) Mark Streit (Phi - D)
    25. (323) Lee Stempniak (Car - LW,RW)

    TBA
    1. (12) Ben Bishop (TB - G)
    2. (15) P.K. Subban (Nsh - D)
    3. (38) Milan Lucic (Edm - LW)
    4. (41) Nathan MacKinnon (Col - C,RW)
    5. (64) Alexander Radulov (Mon - RW)
    6. (67) Keith Yandle (Fla - D)
    7. (90) Sergei Bobrovsky (Cls - G)
    8. (93) Colton Parayko (StL - D)
    9. (116) Jonathan Drouin (TB - LW)
    10. (119) Ryan O'Reilly (Buf - C,LW)
    11. (142) Gustav Nyquist (Det - LW,RW)
    12. (145) Semyon Varlamov (Col - G)
    13. (168) Jakob Silfverberg (Anh - RW)
    14. (171) Oscar Klefbom (Edm - D)
    15. (194) Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (Edm - C)
    16. (197) Radko Gudas (Phi - D)
    17. (220) Nino Niederreiter (Min - RW)
    18. (223) Adam Larsson (Edm - D)
    19. (246) Kris Versteeg (Edm - LW,RW)
    20. (249) Nail Yakupov (Edm - RW)
    21. (272) Mikko Koivu (Min - C)
    22. (275) Matt Martin (Tor - LW)
    23. (298) Nick Bjugstad (Fla - C)
    24. (301) Lars Eller (Was - C)
    25. (324) Michael Matheson (Fla - D)

    robi's Rad Team
    1. (13) Jonathan Quick (LA - G)
    2. (14) Steven Stamkos (TB - C)
    3. (39) Max Pacioretty (Mon - LW)
    4. (40) John Gibson (Anh - G)
    5. (65) Tyler Toffoli (LA - C,RW)
    6. (66) Jack Eichel (Buf - C)
    7. (91) T.J. Oshie (Was - RW)
    8. (92) Andrew Ladd (NYI - LW)
    9. (117) Ryan McDonagh (NYR - D)
    10. (118) Rick Nash (NYR - LW)
    11. (143) Anton Stralman (TB - D)
    12. (144) Morgan Rielly (Tor - D)
    13. (169) Marian Hossa (Chi - RW)
    14. (170) Andrei Markov (Mon - D)
    15. (195) Chris Kunitz (Pit - LW)
    16. (196) Jonathan Bernier (Anh - G)
    17. (221) Tomas Plekanec (Mon - C)
    18. (222) Elias Lindholm (Car - C,RW)
    19. (247) Travis Hamonic (NYI - D)
    20. (248) Kevin Hayes (NYR - RW)
    21. (273) Jack Johnson (Cls - D)
    22. (274) Jeff Zatkoff (LA - G)
    23. (299) Jimmy Vesey (NYR - LW)
    24. (300) Marian Gaborik (LA - RW)
    25. (325) Jason Demers (Fla - D)
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    Standings projections

    Rank Team Skater pts Goalie pts Total pts
    1 Arjay's Okay Team 54 32 86
    2 Yellow Dogs 57 25 82
    3 Lord of the Rinks 48 32 80
    4 The Comish 44 27 71
    5 The Jobbers 45 24 69
    6 AnzemarkSethGaudreau 49 19 68
    7 Vancouver Beavers 44 17 61
    8 robi's Rad Team 34 25 59
    9 Hockey Down Under 36 19 55
    10 Team Autodraft 39 14 53
    11 Steve's Super Team 43 8 51
    12 Kofax's Awesome Team 34 13 47
    13 TBA 19 18 37

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    Draft Analysis

    Problem with picking first is you also have the turn picks, double pick is nice, but you also sit and wait praying that you don't get sniped, you also have to overreach in order to land a play that you really want. 25 picks is a lot of picks to have to wait or predict trends that will happen over the next 2 rounds.

    I was lucky enough to get the first overall pick, so I had the pick of the litter. With a SOG/Hits league as settings Ovechkin is king so couldn't bypass him. EASY PICK!!

    Roto leagues goalies make a huge emphasis on the overall influence of stats. 164 starts, so 1 start equates to a 0.61% influence factor... for forwards, 1 start out of 984 equates to a 0.10% influence factor, blue-liners 1 start out of 492 equates to a 0.20% influence factor. So essentially 1 goalie start has a 6x influence factor over 1 forward start, plus goalies usually only garner 55-60ish starts anyway so that's even more important that you get quality starters rather than run of the mill goalies... more on that later...

    So naturally with picks in round 2/3, gotta go goalie/goalie... I had Schneider cued up, but had him sniped 2 spots ahead of my pick... so I to pick from the next best options, debated over Rinne/Lundy/Rask/Crawford... and went with Rinne and Lundy, Rinne had a rough year, but I think he bounces back, same with Lundy, there's some trends in split stats that I'm pretty happy with. Plus they are elite goalies so not too worried about their production throughout the year, almost set and forget really...

    Back for the turn at 4/5, I was initially targeting D/C combo for these next picks, but had Doughty sniped the 1 pick before mine... so had to adjust, debated over Backstrom/Getzlaf/Johansen... and went with the first 2. PPP in this deep of a league is probably the toughest stat to account for so I made it a priority to really target players who will get a lot of PP time to help augment that stat... that was really my main reason for Backstrom over Johansen... Getzlaf is a good multi-category producer in this league type. 100 HITs, 200 SOG, 20ish PPP so not bad for a 2C. Plus he shot 7.3% last season compared to 15.2, 15.2 and 13.1 the previous 3 seasons so there's room for improvement from last year's numbers.

    Back for the turn at 6/7, playing with some familiar Dobberities that I've known over the last couple of years, so I knew some of their tendencies panicked me a bit, as some of the "across the board" producers flew off very quickly. I really like Thornton as he's always under-rated especially from the PPP front, he was gone, then Landeskog and Backes, all of the players which I was "targeting" flew off the board, so I reached a bit for Kane, he won't play a full 82 games, but he has a career stat-line of 0.60 points-per-game, 1.12 PIMs/g, 2.43 HITs/g and 3.49 SOG/g. One of the most productive across the board producers in the game. I missed out on the D the rounds before, so I grabbed the "best available" with Krug, miss out a little bit on the HITs front, but great production for P, PPP and SOG.

    Turn 8/9, Toews going at 95th shocked me, I was praying he would drop a few more, but gone before the pick got to me, settled for Carter instead, who probably brings more "across the board" production than Toews would. SOG, HIT, P production, disappointed with the lack of PPP production though. With Gabby out, it might change the structure a bit... was really trying to think of nabbing another D here (Pietrangelo, Suter, McDonagh), but nothing really jumped out at me. From doing my research on FHG there were a few later "sleepers" that I still had in the bag, so wasn't too concerned at the moment, continuing the trend of across the board production went with Jenner. HITs, SOG with a bit of P contribution...

    Turn 10/11, now was probably the time to jump on my D, once again concentrating on my strategy of across the board production, nabbed Seabrook and Phaneuf, Seabrook is a good contributor to HITs and SOG, I think his point production will regress with Campbell coming back to chew up some more minutes, but he should still be productive enough to be fantasy worthy... Hoping for a bit of a bounce back by Mr. Phaneuf, he wasn't poor/poor in OTT after the trade, but he has 35-40 point, 100 PIM, 150 SOG, 120 HITs potential... also considered Seth Jones, but lack of PIMs scared me despite the point and SOG potential.

    Turn 12/13 I got disconnected, so the computer auto-picked for me in the next 2 picks... but I had Marleau queued anyway, very under-valued this year, yes declining age... poor +/-, but despite the bad year T-14th for PPP production, more than Crosby, Panarin, Tarasenko, Seguin and Ovechkin!!! and 43rd for SOG (216) among all skaters. And I landed that production with pick 156 (HAPPY CAMPER!) Perron I had queued much for later in the draft, but the computer decided to pick him for me. if I was live, I'd probably would have gone Silfverberg because I needed a RW...

    Turn 14/15, I was pretty set in most positions (IMO), so went back to my initial strategy of securing quality starts for goalies and went Ward and Miller. 1 of the main strategies for ROTO leagues is that you can always "stream" for quality starts, which I intend to do throughout the season. If 1 of my goalies are playing the most offensive team on the road, I'm benching his butt. Playing the league's worst offense at home, you bet i'm starting him! With 4 (#1) goalies, I have the luxury of streaming. 50 starts per goalie x 4 = 200 starts, I can only use 162, so I can essentially remove 38+ starts from the mix and bean count my starts.

    Turn 16/17, I only have 1 RW at the moment, so I had to do a double RW pick. Was pretty slim pickens at this point, and because I've been away from fantasy hockey for all of 2014-15, I wasn't fully up to date with the latest trends and market values. So I stuck with names I knew were reliable. Picked Iggy and Doan. I'm very interested to see how the departure of Roy affects the Avs this season. Either way, Iggy is Mr. Reliable. He'll chip in with around a HIT per game plus 2 SOG and he'll get his fair share of PP time 19 PPP (T-56th in the league). So great value pick here. Doan is along the same lines as Iggy, reliable HIT/SOG/PPP contributor 1.6/g, 2.4/g and 17 PPP respectively...

    Turn 18/19, tried to round out a bit more of my D, E. Johnson is a little bit under-valued IMO, Barrie is probably the "go to" man on the Avs' blue-line, but EJ brings more across the board production, 126 HITs, 175 SOG, along with a little bit of PIM production... Hanzal once again brings out a bit more of the strengths for my team, 2.0 HITs, 2.2 SOG, along with 1.2 PIMs per game. He won't play 82 games, but for 60 some odd games, he's a good support producer for Backstrom/Getzlaf/Jenner/Marleau... I probably could have went Bogosian here, but I thought he'd last another round...

    Turn 20/21, problems with Yahoo once again, and had to auto-pick, but had a few guys queued... I'm happy with my combo of Callahan/Brown to help continue my initial strategy... injury concerns with Callahan, but HITs/SOG production should be good support numbers. Brown will be interesting with Gabby out for most of the first half of the season. With Kopitar/Carter/Pearson/Toffoli/Purcell? floating around, it leaves Brown with a top-6 position, 2.9 Hits and 2.7 SOG once again helps support my strategy. Missed out on Koivu with the auto-pick, but not too phased to be honest. I was eyeing Orlov as well, but missed out on him.

    Turn 22/23, really just trying to round out my D here with the next 2 picks and really was just looking for BPA, the Rangers' D looked shaky for most of last year, but I think this year's blue-line corps resembles a lot more of the 2013-14 version than last years'. Most of the responsibilities will go back to McDonagh, Girardi and Staal in which they recorded 43 points, 88 HITs, 177 SOG and 24 points, 191 HITs, 100 SOG respectively in 2013-14, so I see the numbers improving for 16-17 which is why I went with Girardi... A bit of a swing for the fences pick, but not much risk, Sekera to hopefully bank on the Oilers' PP. Still waiting to see if Larsson, Klefbom or Sekera gets that coveted top unit spot, but Sekera should still get plenty of opportunity. Reasonable production for HITs and SOG should see him garner a reasonable chunk of my 492 games at my disposal.

    Turn 24/25, last 2 picks for the draft, so not too fussed here, these will really be my "streaming" spots, so I'm not too concerned over splitting hairs. Went with Wissy thinking he'd get a gig in TB, but he has since been release on his PTO, so I'll look for a replacement soon... I went with Fisher with my last pick, just based on name once again... reasonable HIT/SOG production... in hindsight probably should have went with Vrbata to help support my weaker RW positions, but as I said before these are my streaming positions so I'm not too fussed. I might use this spot to pick up another goalie, to allow me to cherry pick starts even more.

    Anyways long analysis, questions or comments, happy to discuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by temek View Post
    Standings projections

    Rank Team Skater pts Goalie pts Total pts
    1 Arjay's Okay Team 54 32 86
    2 Yellow Dogs 57 25 82
    3 Lord of the Rinks 48 32 80
    4 The Comish 44 27 71
    5 The Jobbers 45 24 69
    6 AnzemarkSethGaudreau 49 19 68
    7 Vancouver Beavers 44 17 61
    8 robi's Rad Team 34 25 59
    9 Hockey Down Under 36 19 55
    10 Team Autodraft 39 14 53
    11 Steve's Super Team 43 8 51
    12 Kofax's Awesome Team 34 13 47
    13 TBA 19 18 37
    hmmmm interesting, seems very low for goalie points for me...
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    I will review my draft later, but figured I would clear the confusion to my first round pick of Kucherov. The plan was taking Karlson @4 in the first round all day. I was drafting in the back seat of a truck on the way home from my adult league game. I live in Arkansas and my trip takes me across some non LTE friendly places. I started tossing guys into the que and got booted offline right as the draft started. Well needless to say I auto draft of Kucherov while I was offline! I had planned on taking Karlson and Pavelski to start out. Needless to say I was behind the eightball the entire draft after that.
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    Busy weekend = Pengwin forgot about draft.
    Happened (!!!) to log-in just because I was checking my (awesome) fantasy football team.
    Jumped in 7 rounds in - fortunately, I'm pretty damn happy with what Autodraft nabbed me for first 5 rounds - Ghost & Keith, not so much.
    Also - my first draft done purely by phone, yuck, lack of info at my finger tips = unhappy Pengwin.
    Goalie by committee and the hopes that the DAL duo won't be so bad in GAA this year.
    Like my team, but probably a more middling finish 4th-6th.

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    This was a tough draft for me, and not just for the usual reasons (i.e., you know the competition is fierce). I had a lot of issues with the Yahoo draft page early on -- the page kept freezing and I kept getting booted out. At round 3~ or so, I changed browsers and that helped a lot. Every time I used the search function to create my queue, early on, I was getting booted out. On top of that, we only had 60 seconds to pick. We you combine those two factors together, the circumstances of the first few rounds were, for me, disorienting -- there was scrambling just to get logged back in and identify who was available or not.

    I had the #3 spot, and had been planning on taking Benn or Holby, because I assumed that OV and then Crosby would go first. So I didn't even think of Crosby as a possibility. In spite of any injury concerns, I decided against a goalie here because I felt like there would be no PPG players available at pick #24, and so went with Crosby.

    My picks at rounds 2 and 3 were made under duress, described above. I had a bunch of goalies queued up, was booted out, and came back 1 pick before my own 2nd pick. I had 60 secs to try to figure out who was available, and a lot of my queue disappeared. I lost track of Rask and thought he was gone, and I ended up opting for Schneider, thinking his good GAA and SV peripherals will make up for the 5-7 fewer wins he's likely to get me over comparables. In the long run, Schneider might be the better pick anyway, even if I dislike NJ. I had about 2 mins after that to debate the next move, and I decided I didn't want to get stuck with sifting through the bargain bin at pick #50, so I opted for Crawford. I figure Crawford will get me 30+ wins, 1500+ SVs, and a 2.3~ ish GAA.

    One thing I wanted to make sure I did this year was pick guys who helped me the most, and hurt me the least. That sounds common sense, I know, so I'll explain. I went through my FHG-generated list using Dobber's projections and 'coded' the players. I highlighted in red individual columns for players like to produce 25+ goals, 35+ assists, have a good +/- season, 200+ SOG, 100+ HIT -- and by contrast, I highlighted in blue individual columns for players likely to produce 10 or under goals, 20 or under assists, have a poor +/-season, 150 or less SOG, 50 or less HIT, and whose projected GP'd fell under 70. My goal here was to make sure I wasn't drafting guys who carry 'negative value' -- i.e., players who produce, say, 60 points, but who are likely to have terrible +/-, or low SOG or HIT, or likely to be injured. I had a lot of guys like that on my roster last year, and they were hurting me when I played them, even when they produced, and they were players whose perceived trade value took a hit as a result. So this year, I decided to be very careful to pick guys with lots of 'red' in their columns, and to avoid guys with a lot of 'blue' in their columns.

    At pick #50 in round 4, I took Josi, one of the last big producing D left. I waffled a lot with the next pick, but ended up taking B. Schenn. I was actually targetting Simmonds but he went a few picks before my Josi pick in round 4, but anyway, I think of Schenn as someone who brings pretty much exactly the same thing as Simmonds to the table -- 5~ less goals, 5-10 more A, similar +/-, PPP, SOG, and HIT. My strategy of picking across the board contributors, too, meant that he was more attractive than, say, Johansen or Voracek or Eberle -- players who went soon after and who may well put up a few more points, but whose columns didn't have as many items highlighted in red on my sheet.

    That pattern continued for me in the next rounds, when I selected Backes (76) and Hornqvist (81). While both guys are probably going to hover around 50~ points, they each have good potential for 25~ goals, Hornqvist is a SOG boost, Backes is a HIT boost, and neither is likely to hurt me in the +/- category.

    One thing I wasn't watching enough as a result of my approach, however, is total # of points the players were likely to produce, and PPP totals. I became aware of this issue around this time, and as a result picked Galchenyuk (102) and Suter (107), hoping to add more points and PPP in general. I also didn't like that I only had 1 D before this and the pickings were already starting to get thin. On the points/PPP front, I know that I'll probably have to make some moves there to ship out some across-the-board contributors for some more pure points guys, but my feeling is that because the guys I'm targeted are likely have over-average stats in some categories and few under-average stats that detract from player value I'll be able to move pieces to address holes as I identify them.

    The next round, I went back to the planned strategy of looking for guys who would contribute above-average stats in some areas without paying out below average stats in other areas, and selected Kesler (128) and Kreider (133). They're not Backes and Hornqvist, but 50 picks later, they were as close as I could find and should provide SOG and HIT boosts, decent goals, middling assists. At this stage, I'm seeing that I only have 2 RWs and 2 D, however, and I know I have to address that very soon.

    A few RWs I was targeting with my 12th round pick disappeared right before me, so I focused instead on getting a D, Leddy. Leddy is my first pick were I'm starting to get some columns highlighted in blue -- lower SOG, HIT, and +/- concerns. But I need a Dman, and I need points and PPP, and to be he's the best remaining option. The next pick, I decide some GMs have been taking it for granted that there will be serviceable starters left for them late in the draft, since most GMs drafted 2 goalies in the top 5 rounds, so I pick Anderson up with pick 159. It's a bit off the board in terms of my needs, but I know he's good for 30~ wins and lots of SV, while his GAA is a bit of a wild card. But he's a good insurance policy for me in the event of a major injury to my starters, and he's good trade bait for a team who was planning on getting a starter for cheap.

    I'm still not liking my RW options when things get back to me, so I rinse and repeat, taking Stone (#180) and Greiss (#185). Stone is one of those guys on my sheet with a few of columns in red (A, HIT), but who is also a +/- concern. Seeing Anderson in my queue two rounds back made me think more about what good goalie value is left, and I was surprised and happy to be able to pick up Greiss so late in the draft. Worst case, he's a good backup who gets 30~ games; best case, he's the starting goalie by January. Either way, I pick up the extra games I need to get to 164 GP'd at the G slot and/or add a good trading chip.

    In the 16th and 17th rounds, I've got my eye on Nino for my next RWer but figure I can let that slide one more pass. So I take Hartnell (#206) and Brodie (#211). At this stage, it's hard to avoid taking players who have columns highlighted blue, but I'm doing the best I can. Hartnell provides average G, A, SOG, and PPP, a HIT boost, and a +/- risk. He's the third +/- risk I've taken on, and I'm pretty much at my ceiling on that front as a result. Brodie, meanwhile, projects for below-average stats in a lot of areas (G, SOG, HIT), but I know I'm short on points and a sure-thing 40-45 point Dman is very attractive at this point.

    After losing out on Nino a few picks after Brodie, I target Johansson, who remains available to me at pick 232. He stands to give me some A and PPP, without hurting me by producing below average stats in other areas. 5 picks later, I take Ceci. My hope is that he can reach 30-points alongside Phaneuf and continue to put up OK peripherals without being a guy who hurts my team in other areas.

    With my last 5 picks, I'm mostly filling up my bench. I take Pageau at 258 and Ellis at 263. Pageau offers 40~ points, good +/-, average SOG, and a HIT boost, whereas Ellis is looking like the safest bet to produce 30~ points without have a lot of warning signs in terms of negative contributions. I'm pleasantly surprised to find Perrault still available at pick 284, and then round off the evening by taking fliers on Pominville, Granlund, and Stafford.

    Overall, I mostly like this team. I have solid goaltending, with excess to trade away to file some holes. I have a lot of guys who bring a good mix of above average stats in areas like G, SOG, and HIT, and I limited my intake of guys who are high risk in the +/- and injury departments or who otherwise are likely to produce below average numbers in other areas. I imagine I'll have to move out a goalie as well as a multi-cat guy or two to bring in a few players likely to produce 60+ points and 20+ PPP, but otherwise, this is a team that is built to have the most across-the-board contributors that I could get while mostly avoiding players who hurt your team even when they're producing in other areas.
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    LEAGUE: keeper -- 6 keepers per year, no farm; roto; 10 managers, 18-man rosters; 2 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4 D, 1 UTIL, 2 G, 5 Bench; limits of 99 games per skater position & 82 games per goalie position; daily roster moves; max 100 waiver wire transactions per year; scoring categories of G, A, +/-, HIT, PPP, SOG, DEF (points by d-men), W, GAA, SA%, and SV.

    ROSTER:

    C: Draisaitl* (LW), Dubois, Nelson
    LW: Svechnikov* (RW), Hagel
    RW: Kucherov*, Tarasenko, Wilson, Stone, Laine, Reinhart, P. Kane (IR)
    D: Fox*, Karlsson*, Chabot (IR), Faulk, Martinez
    G:: Vasilevskiy*, Vanecek, Adin, Knight (IR)

    * = 2023 keepers

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    Default Re: 2016/17 Dobber Pro - Wales League

    Draft results in order added to the first two posts.

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    Fun draft everyone.

    Overall, I'm pretty content with my team. I'm very happy with my first 3 rounds, and in general my first 10.

    Prior to the draft, I actually made an "ideal but possible" target of drafting Benn-OEL-Letang, and I managed to do that so I'm pretty stoked on those first 3 picks.

    I wasn't planning on getting 4 D in my first 5 picks, but IMO both doughty and carlson were the best players available at my pick in rounds 4 and 5 so I had to take them. My D group is stupidly good, so hopefully they can carry me.

    Rounds 6 to 10 I'm still "happy" with. Scheifele could be decent value at 77, and I'm happy with Talbot at 80th considering I think he has a chance of beating some of the goalies drafted early. JVR, Ryan, and Kadri were my 8, 9, and 10 picks and I have no complaints there. Each has good point potential and solid shot/hit production. If all of them produce as I think they are capable of, then I think those could also be great value picks.

    From there on out it gets a little less certain, and that was due to my lack of prep beyond the first 100 picks. And anytime I had some guys queued up, they got snagged and left me to scramble with not much time to think. No major complaints though - Turris at 158 could be value, as could Ennis at 233. Still, a bit uncertain about how I should have done rounds 11 onward, but I think I'm satisfied with the outcome.

    I'm projected for a middle finish, but I was projected for 6th in the pro league last year and ended up winning so I'm not going to look too much into that.

    Excited to see how my team actually performs!

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    1. (2) Jamie Benn (Dal - LW)
    2. (25) Oliver Ekman-Larsson (Ari - D)
    3. (28) Kris Letang (Pit - D)
    4. (51) Drew Doughty (LA - D)
    5. (54) John Carlson (Was - D)
    6. (77) Mark Scheifele (Wpg - C)
    7. (80) Cam Talbot (Edm - G)
    8. (103) James van Riemsdyk (Tor - LW)
    9. (106) Bobby Ryan (Ott - RW)
    10. (129) Nazem Kadri (Tor - C)
    11. (132) Patrik Laine (Wpg - RW)
    12. (155) Mike Smith (Ari - G)
    13. (158) Kyle Turris (Ott - C)
    14. (181) Jordan Staal (Car - C,LW)
    15. (184) Tomas Hertl (SJ - C)
    16. (207) Reilly Smith (Fla - RW)
    17. (210) Johnny Boychuk (NYI - D)
    18. (233) Tyler Ennis (Buf - C,LW)
    19. (236) Calvin Pickard (Col - G)
    20. (259) Cal Clutterbuck (NYI - RW)
    21. (262) Nick Holden (NYR - D)
    22. (285) Al Montoya (Mon - G)
    23. (288) Louis Domingue (Ari - G)
    24. (311) Oliver Bjorkstrand (Cls - RW)
    25. (314) Eddie Lack (Car - G)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hipcheck View Post
    I will review my draft later, but figured I would clear the confusion to my first round pick of Kucherov. The plan was taking Karlson @4 in the first round all day. I was drafting in the back seat of a truck on the way home from my adult league game. I live in Arkansas and my trip takes me across some non LTE friendly places. I started tossing guys into the que and got booted offline right as the draft started. Well needless to say I auto draft of Kucherov while I was offline! I had planned on taking Karlson and Pavelski to start out. Needless to say I was behind the eightball the entire draft after that.
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    Ma - good write up, but you know there is no PIM in this league?

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