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    Default Patrick Kane Trade Help

    I own Kane in a 24 team, points league which is multi-cat for Fant points but favours goals + assists. Dynasty league with contracts generated through expected production (this is year 1).

    I have Patrick Kane and was offered, William Nylander (or Nik Ehlers), Pavel Zacha and ryan pulock fo him. Salaries actually even out

    Which side do you prefer?

    Patrick Kane
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    William Nylander (or ehlers??)
    Pav Zacha
    Ryan Pulock

    Thx to those who reply

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    ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm NO??????
    depends highly on goals and assists...........you dont trade the #1 guy in that category for 3 distant potentials
    ESPECIALLY in year 1
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    LW: Guentzal, Lee, J.T Miller, Rakell

    RW: Point, Nylander, Perron, Marner, Laine

    D: Carlson, Hedman, Petry, Byfuglien, McAvoy

    G: M. Jones, Price

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    Id be looking for a package like kucherov barkov and nylander and a pick

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    how many keepers?
    10 Team Keeper (5)
    Head-to-Head
    G, A, SOG, PPP, FW, HIT, BLK
    3 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4 D, 1 UTIL, 2 GOALIE

    C: Barzal, Mcdavid, J. Staal, Mackinnon, Matthews,

    LW: Guentzal, Lee, J.T Miller, Rakell

    RW: Point, Nylander, Perron, Marner, Laine

    D: Carlson, Hedman, Petry, Byfuglien, McAvoy

    G: M. Jones, Price

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    Hmm no on would move a package like that. Kucherov went 21 overall, barkov 30, w nylander 73 and Kane 5th overall. We essentially keep all players.

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    well if its me im looking for an A guy a B guy and top prospect
    10 Team Keeper (5)
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    G, A, SOG, PPP, FW, HIT, BLK
    3 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4 D, 1 UTIL, 2 GOALIE

    C: Barzal, Mcdavid, J. Staal, Mackinnon, Matthews,

    LW: Guentzal, Lee, J.T Miller, Rakell

    RW: Point, Nylander, Perron, Marner, Laine

    D: Carlson, Hedman, Petry, Byfuglien, McAvoy

    G: M. Jones, Price

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    Id need more than that to move Patty K. At least two standout, but maybe not as elite, established players. Guys like Forsberg, Monahan, Kucherov or Scheifele (as examples).

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    D: Bouchard, McAvoy, Morrissey, Heiskanen
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    Default Re: Patrick Kane Trade Help

    Quote Originally Posted by adamson View Post
    Which side do you prefer?

    Patrick Kane
    Vs
    William Nylander (or ehlers??)
    Pav Zacha
    Ryan Pulock
    Please don't trade one of the best players in the league for this collection of youngsters.. If this is his/her best offer, then keep P.Kane and keep the points.. Don't set yourself back 5 years..
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    that is not even close to being considered....
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    C: Scheifele, Sedin, Stastny, Zetterberg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triplea14 View Post
    Id be looking for a package like kucherov barkov and nylander and a pick
    It may not be your league standard, but this is the kind of deal you need if you're going to deal Kane.
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    Default Re: Patrick Kane Trade Help

    i dont know how they have a standard in year 1. thats the bigger point
    10 Team Keeper (5)
    Head-to-Head
    G, A, SOG, PPP, FW, HIT, BLK
    3 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4 D, 1 UTIL, 2 GOALIE

    C: Barzal, Mcdavid, J. Staal, Mackinnon, Matthews,

    LW: Guentzal, Lee, J.T Miller, Rakell

    RW: Point, Nylander, Perron, Marner, Laine

    D: Carlson, Hedman, Petry, Byfuglien, McAvoy

    G: M. Jones, Price

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    Default Re: Patrick Kane Trade Help

    Thx for all the feedback

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    Default Re: Patrick Kane Trade Help

    Walk away, do not make this trade
    14 team h/h dynasty
    Stats, G A PTS PIM +/- PPP SHP GWG shts TOI hts/blks W sv% gaa SO
    $89 mill salary cap, cap hits
    minors- players under 60 gms, goalies under 30 gms
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    LEFTWING Gaudreau, Mantha, Forsberg, Keller
    RIGHTWING Kakko , Debrincat, Thomas, Konecny
    D-MEN Girard, Provorov, McCavoy, Dobson, Makar
    GOALIES Gibson, Shesterkin, Sorokin
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    MINORS Brannstrom, Kostin, Dennisenko, Kaprizov, Tippett, Cozens, Tolvanen, Zegras, Byfield , Vessalainen, K.Miller, Kyrou, Janik, Bokk, Lundell, Heinola, Hoglander, Lundkvist

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    What the heck does "contracts generated by expected production" mean? But then you say the salaries work out? I have no idea what this means.

    And while this seems like an easy decline, it's very difficult to give an informed answer without understanding the cap implications. Sometimes large contracts are hard to move in deep cap leagues. The suggested market values listed above do not seem remotely realistic for the OP's league.

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    I think we need a better idea of the exact details of the league to gauge this - also how your team looks
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    Salaries were auto generated through Fantrax. Bottom line, Kane is one of the top 3 most expensive - $7.32 and the others are: Nylander $2.75/Pulock $1.75/ Zacha $1.31

    As for my team this is it as is now:

    C - plekanec
    C - couturier
    C - nick schmaltz
    W - Steen
    W - MacArthur
    W - Parenteau
    W - Vrbata
    W - jagr
    D - subban
    D - Burns
    D - Dumba
    D - Paryko
    D - Elder
    "Captain" (extra points for g&a) - Kane
    Pp (extra points pop) - spezza
    PP - Henrik Sedin
    PK (extra points for shot block + hits) - desires
    Pk- Connor Murphy
    G- Corey Crawford

    (Can have minors up to 16 players - 120 games/under 25):
    - athanasiou
    - Crouse
    - walman
    - scherbak

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