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    Default Need advice on possibly trading Bishop or Allen

    Hi Guys I have a lot of interest in moving 1 of these goalies in my Dynasty League. I'm thinking of using it as a good opportunity to improve my team as I finished 4th last out of 12 last year. I'm hoping to find out what kind of return I should expect for 1 of these guys. Last year Bishop finished 3rd and Allen 7th in this format. So far these are the best offers....

    Goligoski/Marchard for Bishop
    Marchand for Allen
    Marner/Miere for Allen (This guy holds 3rd overall pick. I asked, he said he would not do it for Allen straight up, said it would cost Stamkos)

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    Daily H2H - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2SKT(F/D), 1G, 4 Bench 10 Minors.
    G, A, PPP, SHP, GWG+SOGWG(Shootout Game Winning Goal), SOG, PIM, HIT, BLK, FO%, W, L, SAVES, SHUTOUTS, SAVE%

    Roster:

    C - Stamkos
    C - Scheifle
    C - Schenn (LW)

    LW - Landeskog
    LW - Duclair (RW)
    LW - Fabbri (C)

    RW - Zuccarello
    RW - Simmonds
    RW - Doan

    D - Byfuglien
    D - Morgan Rielly
    D - Vatanen
    D - Ceci
    D - Hanifin

    SKT - Sam Bennet (C)
    SKT - Kadri (C)

    G - Bishop


    BENCH - Couturier (C)
    BENCH - Cody Franson (D)
    BENCH - Rieder (RW)
    BENCH - Niemi (G)

    MINORS - Jake Allen
    MINORS - Dylan Strome
    MINORS - Kevin Fiala
    MINORS - Daniel Sprong
    MINORS - Lawson Crouse
    MINORS - Joel Eriksson EK
    MINORS - Josh Ho-Sang
    MINORS - Jakub Zobril
    MINORS - Antti Raanta

    I currently hold with 4th overall pick in each of the 5 round prospect draft. Could possibly move up if I win the lottery.

    Does trading one of these goalies make sense? If I hang on to both I'm set for Goalies, I'm just having a hard time figuring out if it's worth it to have 2 stud goalies when I can only start 1 and only have 4 bench spots, on the other hand though goalie cat's make up 1/3 of the cats. I'm also shopping a "C"(with not much interest) as I will need to call up Strome sooner then later and that will give me 8 "C". I'm pretty weak at LW and D, that is what I think I should be targeting to help improve my team, just not sure what I should be expecting in return for these goalies.

    Thanks for taking the time to read my post.

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    Default Re: Need advice on possibly trading Bishop or Allen

    In a 12 team league, with 1G slot, and a small bench, goalies won't be highly valued. Allen is probably the best bet to move (you won't get fair value for Bishop), and if I could get the Marchand owner to add a plus, then I would do that.
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    Default Re: Need advice on possibly trading Bishop or Allen

    As EB said, goalies don't hold huge value in a 1G league... however I think you should be able to get better return for either goalie.

    If not, you drop Niemi and don't look back as you have Bishop as your starter and move Allen to your bench.

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    Default Re: Need advice on possibly trading Bishop or Allen

    Teams rosters that are interested in my goalies

    C - Jeff Carter
    C - Pavelski
    C - Spezza
    LW - Marchand
    LW - Panarin
    LW - Steen
    RW - Horqvist
    RW - Jagr
    RW - Saad
    D - Goligoski
    D - Keith
    D - Martinez
    D - Petry
    D - Spurgeon
    SKT - Connolly
    SKT - Stepniak
    G - Greiss

    BENCH - Zetterberg
    BENCH - Fast
    BENCH - Bogosian
    BENCH - Hossa

    MINORS - Marko Dano
    MINORS - Namestnikov
    MINORS - Nick Schmatlz
    MINORS - Khohlachev
    MINORS - Riley Barber
    MINORS - Micheal Matheson
    MINORS - Andrighetto
    MINORS - Henrik Samuellson
    MINORS - Louis Domingue
    MINORS - Sorokin

    C - Eichle
    C - Hertle
    C - Paul Statsny
    LW - Beleskey
    LW - Gaudreau
    LW - Killorn
    RW - Brouwer
    RW - Dustin Brown
    RW - Eberle
    D - OEL
    D - Faulk
    D - Mike Green
    D - Ryan Murray
    D - Subban
    SKT - Eriksson
    SKT - Sekera
    G - Bobrovsky

    BENCH - Bozak
    BENCH - Perron
    BENCH - Edler
    BENCH - Ryan Miller

    MINORS - Marner
    MINORS - Nick Ritchie
    MINORS - Miere
    MINORS - Soshoikov
    MINORS - Kylington
    MINORS - Werenski
    MINORS - Boeser
    MINORS - DeBrusk
    MINORS - Drouin
    MINORS - Reinhart
    MINORS - Vrana
    MINORS - Korpisalo

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    Default Re: Need advice on possibly trading Bishop or Allen

    Team 1 should be desperate for a goalie. Maybe you can pry out Pavelski for Bishop or Panarin for Allen? Likely not, but worth a try.
    Next you could try Marchand and Saad for Allen, and you now have Saad to replace Doan.
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    Default Re: Need advice on possibly trading Bishop or Allen

    Keep both. Drop Niemi. Then don't spend anymore assets finding a goalie to replace what you just lost.

    They same night tool thinks that this is an OK duo.


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    Default Re: Need advice on possibly trading Bishop or Allen

    You should definitely be working on a deal with the first team listed. Needs a goalie bad, and has some nice pieces to give up for either Allen or bishop. I'd move Allen personally. Like be said, try Marchand and saad for Allen. Maybe throw in a 4th or 5th round draft pick with Allen.
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    Default Re: Need advice on possibly trading Bishop or Allen

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Keep both. Drop Niemi. Then don't spend anymore assets finding a goalie to replace what you just lost.

    They same night tool thinks that this is an OK duo.


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    Thanks I just looked in this tool, very helpful!

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    Default Re: Need advice on possibly trading Bishop or Allen

    Personally none of those initial offers are even close and like Moses said - drop Niemi and hold the two sure things
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