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    http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb...riano-pirates/

    Mentioned he was most solid in his rehab with R Martin.

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    Liriano and Russ Martin worked really well together in Pittsburgh. Read "Big Data Baseball". Could be why they tried to get him. #BlueJays

    The two were teammates in both 2013 and 2014. His best year came in 2013 when he posted a 16-8 record with a 3.02 ERA and had 163 strikeouts in 161 innings.

    Not to mention Martin is probably the best pitch framer in ball.

    Also suggested put him in bullpen. Make him a 2 pitch pitcher. Interesting thought.

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    Drew Hutchison goes for Liriano & 2 prospects.

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    Source: #Pirates getting one player from #BlueJays for Liriano and prospects. First to report: @RobertMurrayFRS.

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    So according to Buster, it's Hutch. According to Shi, #Bluejays are also getting two prospects with Liriano. twitter.com/Buster_E…

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    I don't hate it but I don't love it either. Liriano has been just as shakey as Hutch and costs more. At least he's another lefty I guess.

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    Apparently they took the $$$(Liriano contract) for the prospects.

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    While not a star Feldman is a solid upgrade on Chavez.

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    I'm hearing Harold Ramirez is one of prospects coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    I don't hate it but I don't love it either. Liriano has been just as shakey as Hutch and costs more. At least he's another lefty I guess.
    I wonder if this isn't a case of Liriano having a higher "ceiling". I don't believe TOR sees anything super special or clutch out of Hutch so what you see is what you get [a 4-5 rotation guy who you hope doesn't get knocked around too much over 5-6 innings]. Liriano has had some moments that hint at a much more consistent, starting arm. Yes, he costs more. Worst case scenario you're getting essentially the same thing as Hutch gives you [albeit at more money]. Better case scenario, he finds some consistency working once again with Martin behind the plate and the Jays get a #4 LHP which allows them to move Sanchez to the pen [a move I don't like, but seems inevitable...I'm worried this messes with Sanchez's routine he's established as a starter and he might not be as effective].

    Time will tell, but what the Jays needed most was pitching and it looks like they're addressing that [without paying a premium for a superstar like they did for Price last year].
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    Scoring F=1[g/a]; D=2[g], 1[a]; G=2[w], -1[L], 1[OT], 2[SO] Top 12 F, 6 D, 2 G count

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    Crosby, Ovechkin, Backstrom, Wheeler, Byfuglien, Hornqvist, Simmonds, Ladd, Zuccarello, Ribeiro, Desharnais, Semin, MacArthur, Moulson, Purcell, Soderberg, Dupuis
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    I'm hearing Harold Ramirez is one of prospects coming here.

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    Reese McGuire is the other one

    So that's 2 of Pirates top 10 prospects.

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    A little article I dug up on McGuire.....

    http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/p...s/201511230029

    Not overly excited about Ramariz

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    Check what pirate fans are saying about prospects they gave up:
    http://www.forums.mlb.com/discussion...sages&mobile=y

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    Wow pirate fans are flipping out about the prospects they gave up. And here's a couple of tweets....

    6:49 PM
    "The league should really step in on this Pirates trade. It's embarrassing." - Sheehan

    "Seems like going to extreme
    lengths to shed Liriano." - Callis

    "Yeah, this Pirates salary dump is not going to go over well." - Cooper

    "Needless to say, I LOVE this deal for the Blue Jays. If they released Liriano tonight, I'd love it for them." - Cooper (Managing Editor Baseball America)

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    All that for Drew Hutchinson...highway robbery.

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    Top 9F, 4D & 1G . Keep 15, Max 23
    F: J. Robertson, J. Hughes, Tavares, Lafreniere, Cozens, Newhook, Teravainen, Domi, R. Strome, Laine, Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti
    D: Bouchard, McAvoy, Morrissey, Heiskanen
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