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    Default Sam Reinhart for Ivan Provorov?

    Would you make this deal if you were me? (league/team in sig)
    note: I have Eichel and Okposo on Buffalo already
    12-teams, keep 25 (keep 20 farm), H2H, start 6F/4D/1G, G=2, G=1, GA=-1

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    D (8): Makar, Montour, Dunn, Chychrun, Dobson, Seider, Andersson, Hronek
    G (2): Washington, Philadelphia

    Farm F (13): Bedard, Dvorsky, Kulich, Nazar, Lysell, Bourque, Bourgault, Raty, Rosen, Khusnutdinov, Neighbours, Kovalenko, Gritsyuk
    Farm D (7): Mintyukov, Korchinski, Cormier, Andrae, Morin, Brzustewicz, Cagnoni

    2024 picks: estimated #12, #15, #24, #36 overall
    2025 picks: estimated #3, #7, #12, #15, #24, #27, #36, #48 overall

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    Who are the 11 other bozos in your league???? I mean, how did you get to build this team?? I can't see how any other manager can compete against your squad; there are no holes, weaknesses or issues to address!!

    To answer your question, I would make this move but ask for a tad more in return (a pick/prospect or something) just because Reinhart is already established and had a good 2nd season in the NHL.
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    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

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    F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
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    I'd do it if I was the one getting Reinhart from some chump for a defense prospect that is years away.
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    I do not see how Provorov will ever crack your starting roster. All your active players on D are not yet 30 and you have plenty in the tank on the farm too.

    No need.

    PS. Can I join your league? This roster looks like an all-star squad that even the NHL can't put together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherpa View Post
    I do not see how Provorov will ever crack your starting roster. All your active players on D are not yet 30 and you have plenty in the tank on the farm too.

    No need.

    PS. Can I join your league? This roster looks like an all-star squad that even the NHL can't put together.
    I agree, I would prefer the Provorov end of the deal but that defense prevents utilizing Provorov. Reinhart has more ability to contribute to your lineup.

    PS...not sure I would want to join a league where pretty well all the pieces are monopolized with one team

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    it would be difficult to put a better team together using players from the remaining 11 teams in the league..... wow.

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    as for your question. I prefer the Provorov side if you already have a couple Buff players.

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    Your team is so stacked, it must be depressing for the other GMs!
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    I would rather have Sam Reinhart over Ivan Provorov by a significant margin.

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    Mate.... if that is indeed your roster, then we should be asking you for advice not the other way around.

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    I don't see the need for you to make this deal...?
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    no way thats a team

    forget about the forwards which are insane, you have like the top 6 defenceman and the 2 best goalies and a farm that is insane

    Sorry for saying this but if that is a real team and I was in that league, it wouldn't be for long
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    F(9 Start - 82 games)- Matthews, Marner, Point, Barkov, Larkin, Raymond, Zadina Dennisenko, Farabee, Tolvannen, Palat, Mcann , Carter , Barre Boulet
    D(6 Start - 82 games)- Makar,Hughes, Seider, Dobson, Josi, Grelcyk
    G(1 start - 82 games)- Sorokin, Varly

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    yeah, it's my team, lol. it's a good team, for sure, but it's head-to-head on days when there are 6+ NHL games, so even good teams can lose head-to-head on a given night. i did win the cup last year, but didn't the year before.

    because of the set up, it's hard to play guys when you have more than one player at the same position on the same team. two aren't so bad, but three is tough (like Eichel, Okposo, Reinhart on BUF). thinking ahead, i'd like to get another young D for the future. another option could be to flip Reinhart for another young F on a different team...
    12-teams, keep 25 (keep 20 farm), H2H, start 6F/4D/1G, G=2, G=1, GA=-1

    F (12): McDavid, Pastrnak, M.Tkachuk, Kaprizov, Robertson, Thompson, Point, Keller, Buchnevich, B.Tkachuk, Hischier, Konecny
    D (8): Makar, Montour, Dunn, Chychrun, Dobson, Seider, Andersson, Hronek
    G (2): Washington, Philadelphia

    Farm F (13): Bedard, Dvorsky, Kulich, Nazar, Lysell, Bourque, Bourgault, Raty, Rosen, Khusnutdinov, Neighbours, Kovalenko, Gritsyuk
    Farm D (7): Mintyukov, Korchinski, Cormier, Andrae, Morin, Brzustewicz, Cagnoni

    2024 picks: estimated #12, #15, #24, #36 overall
    2025 picks: estimated #3, #7, #12, #15, #24, #27, #36, #48 overall

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    I'm curious as to how you were able to get a team like this. Trades? Getting other GMs drunk? Sexual favors? Also, how can you manage to keep that team under a salary cap? Your league may as well not even have a cap if you don't surpass it with this roster.
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    LW: Forsberg, Skinner, Ovechkin
    RW: Gallagher, Shaw, Connolly
    D: Krug, Pietrangelo, M. Stone, Murray, Despres, Bigras
    G: Bobrovsky
    Res: Faksa, Josh Bailey, Brodin, Lehner
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    F: Athanasiou,Dano,C. Brown,Boeser,Jost,Milano,Perlini,Scherbak,Crouse, Erne,Lehkonen,Devin Shore,Bellows,Benson,Cassels,Harkins, Roslovic,Sokolov (Radulov, Stastny and Ferland as veterans in minors; post passing waivers)
    D: C. Carrick,Kulak,Jacob Larsson,McKeown,C. Nelson,Paliotta,Tryamkin,Walman
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    Quote Originally Posted by jml238 View Post
    I'm curious as to how you were able to get a team like this. Trades? Getting other GMs drunk? Sexual favors? Also, how can you manage to keep that team under a salary cap? Your league may as well not even have a cap if you don't surpass it with this roster.
    lol, no sexual favors or getting them drunk (at least i don't think they were drunk)...

    it's mostly about timing... buying low on guys, especially when their contracts are up (in our pool, salaries are determined by their performance in the pool, so strategic buy lows means getting them locked in on cheap contracts). also grabbing guys before they break out. also selling vets for picks a few years into the future (yes, i have to wait a few years to see a return, but i usually end up with a good young player). some strategic trades -- e.g. traded #1 OA pick for Seguin (that pick ended up being Yakupov, lol), traded for Josi before he broke out, etc. and never signing high-priced guys, always going for good value (like i never get guys like Ovechkin, Stamkos, etc who are always expensive). i'm always up against the cap, so it does mean moving guys out for cheaper players. it's very hard to keep a team like this together, for sure. like next year i'm going to lose burns.
    12-teams, keep 25 (keep 20 farm), H2H, start 6F/4D/1G, G=2, G=1, GA=-1

    F (12): McDavid, Pastrnak, M.Tkachuk, Kaprizov, Robertson, Thompson, Point, Keller, Buchnevich, B.Tkachuk, Hischier, Konecny
    D (8): Makar, Montour, Dunn, Chychrun, Dobson, Seider, Andersson, Hronek
    G (2): Washington, Philadelphia

    Farm F (13): Bedard, Dvorsky, Kulich, Nazar, Lysell, Bourque, Bourgault, Raty, Rosen, Khusnutdinov, Neighbours, Kovalenko, Gritsyuk
    Farm D (7): Mintyukov, Korchinski, Cormier, Andrae, Morin, Brzustewicz, Cagnoni

    2024 picks: estimated #12, #15, #24, #36 overall
    2025 picks: estimated #3, #7, #12, #15, #24, #27, #36, #48 overall

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    No need to make this trade.

    And that is one great looking team. You must be one hell of a good car salesman...lol!

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