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    He skates a lot of minutes and is good for around 20pts, 130ish shots, and a 100+ Hits&BLKS a season. Some PP2 again this year maybe? Does he have 30+ PT seasons in him? My question is do I hold onto a player like that long or short term. Also at only 25 does he continue to build on those numbers? Dynasty League counts D-pts as well as hits+blks
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    G,A,SOG,PIM,HIT,BLK,FO%,2G+A,D-pts,STG,GWG+SHP+ShootoutG
    W,SV%,GAA,SO Start 4 C,LW,RW/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 3Bench/6IR

    C-Hischier,W.Nylander,
    Benn
    LW-Guentzel,B.Tkachuk
    ,Marchand,Gaudreau
    RW-A.Svechnikov,M.Tkachuk,Duclair,Mantha
    D-Provorov,McAvoy,Gudas,Doughty,Dunn,McDonagh
    G-Hart,Vanecek
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    Brannstrom,Crouse
    Prospects
    Rossi,Berggren,Sillinger,Giv.Smith,Perreault,Kaspe r,Gauthier,Miroshnichenko,R.Johnson
    Perunovich,Salo,Capobianco,Mackey,Woo,Benning,A.Jo hansson,Thrun
    Skinner,Martin,Ingram,Fedotov
    ​Entry Draft 5 Rds [<60gp] '23 2,3,3,5
    Cap 77.82M/82.5M

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    Default Re: Hamonics Value

    I expect him to do similar this season... not sure I see any further upside
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    30 points isn't out of the question but I doubt it becomes the norm, especially now that he is expected to stay in NY.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

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    Ya my thinking is along the same lines. I don't know wether I wana justify his cap# for those kind of stats.
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    20 Team Dynasty (Unique Cap) H2H 23 Man roster - 20 Minor
    G,A,SOG,PIM,HIT,BLK,FO%,2G+A,D-pts,STG,GWG+SHP+ShootoutG
    W,SV%,GAA,SO Start 4 C,LW,RW/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 3Bench/6IR

    C-Hischier,W.Nylander,
    Benn
    LW-Guentzel,B.Tkachuk
    ,Marchand,Gaudreau
    RW-A.Svechnikov,M.Tkachuk,Duclair,Mantha
    D-Provorov,McAvoy,Gudas,Doughty,Dunn,McDonagh
    G-Hart,Vanecek
    B-
    Brannstrom,Crouse
    Prospects
    Rossi,Berggren,Sillinger,Giv.Smith,Perreault,Kaspe r,Gauthier,Miroshnichenko,R.Johnson
    Perunovich,Salo,Capobianco,Mackey,Woo,Benning,A.Jo hansson,Thrun
    Skinner,Martin,Ingram,Fedotov
    ​Entry Draft 5 Rds [<60gp] '23 2,3,3,5
    Cap 77.82M/82.5M

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    In fantasy hockey, he's decent value for the cap because of his peripherals. If you are looking for a lot of offense from your defense, you are doing it wrong. In multi-cat leagues, your D should primarily be used for the hits/blocks, etc and let your forwards do the scoring. If your D is offensive, consider that a bonus!
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    I have J.Faulk and T.Barrie already. Sekera as well on a 1.25 hit compared to Hamonics 2.25 hit. Also have Phaneuf at 3.25 Just deciding how I want to proceed. Dion I think continues his 30pt for a few more seasons. I think I could replace Hams stats and get a lil bit of savings. At the same time im torn. With the D-pts cat I've put a lil more value to scoring Dmen. That being said my team as whole looks pretty solid and I could replace Ham with A.Mcquaid, I'd lose about 10pts and 40-50sog but gain the cap flexibility and still have the HIT/BLK covered. I'm new to the dynasty format so I'm still feeling it out.
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    20 Team Dynasty (Unique Cap) H2H 23 Man roster - 20 Minor
    G,A,SOG,PIM,HIT,BLK,FO%,2G+A,D-pts,STG,GWG+SHP+ShootoutG
    W,SV%,GAA,SO Start 4 C,LW,RW/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 3Bench/6IR

    C-Hischier,W.Nylander,
    Benn
    LW-Guentzel,B.Tkachuk
    ,Marchand,Gaudreau
    RW-A.Svechnikov,M.Tkachuk,Duclair,Mantha
    D-Provorov,McAvoy,Gudas,Doughty,Dunn,McDonagh
    G-Hart,Vanecek
    B-
    Brannstrom,Crouse
    Prospects
    Rossi,Berggren,Sillinger,Giv.Smith,Perreault,Kaspe r,Gauthier,Miroshnichenko,R.Johnson
    Perunovich,Salo,Capobianco,Mackey,Woo,Benning,A.Jo hansson,Thrun
    Skinner,Martin,Ingram,Fedotov
    ​Entry Draft 5 Rds [<60gp] '23 2,3,3,5
    Cap 77.82M/82.5M

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    In fantasy hockey, he's decent value for the cap because of his peripherals. If you are looking for a lot of offense from your defense, you are doing it wrong. In multi-cat leagues, your D should primarily be used for the hits/blocks, etc and let your forwards do the scoring. If your D is offensive, consider that a bonus!
    Totally agree with this. Both my leagues are multi-cat and unless he's putting up higher end offensive numbers for a D man, I'm looking for at least decent peripheral production. I suppose this could be different in a league where hit/blocks are weighted differently than offensive stats, but if I can grab say, a 30-ish point guy who helps lock down 2-3 secondary categories each week, it's hard for me to justify taking a 40 point guy who is one dimensional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bstbullies View Post
    He skates a lot of minutes and is good for around 20pts, 130ish shots, and a 100+ Hits&BLKS a season. Some PP2 again this year maybe? Does he have 30+ PT seasons in him? My question is do I hold onto a player like that long or short term. Also at only 25 does he continue to build on those numbers? Dynasty League counts D-pts as well as hits+blks
    He does have it in him to hit 30 pts as he did it 2 years ago, but don't expect anything crazy like 35+. His multi-cat performance is solid, but you can find similar ''less-sexy'' names out there that can give you as much bang for your buck.

    He's a better hockey player than he is a ''fantasy hockey'' player
    Keeper league 14 teams (H2H, 20 active players keep 16 NHLers, 16 minors)
    Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO

    C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

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    F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
    D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
    G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay

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    Thanks for the feedback guys, I really appreciate it!
    5.5X Champs
    20 Team Dynasty (Unique Cap) H2H 23 Man roster - 20 Minor
    G,A,SOG,PIM,HIT,BLK,FO%,2G+A,D-pts,STG,GWG+SHP+ShootoutG
    W,SV%,GAA,SO Start 4 C,LW,RW/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 3Bench/6IR

    C-Hischier,W.Nylander,
    Benn
    LW-Guentzel,B.Tkachuk
    ,Marchand,Gaudreau
    RW-A.Svechnikov,M.Tkachuk,Duclair,Mantha
    D-Provorov,McAvoy,Gudas,Doughty,Dunn,McDonagh
    G-Hart,Vanecek
    B-
    Brannstrom,Crouse
    Prospects
    Rossi,Berggren,Sillinger,Giv.Smith,Perreault,Kaspe r,Gauthier,Miroshnichenko,R.Johnson
    Perunovich,Salo,Capobianco,Mackey,Woo,Benning,A.Jo hansson,Thrun
    Skinner,Martin,Ingram,Fedotov
    ​Entry Draft 5 Rds [<60gp] '23 2,3,3,5
    Cap 77.82M/82.5M

    Twitter @MatsonHockey


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