Trade Eichel for Forsberg?

[Antwell49]

Thanks guys! A lot to think about here

[PenguinHunter]

Thanks guys! A lot to think about here

I personally would not think to long. He might retract his offer!

[lucafen4]

I agree with this. in Keep 4... you want to keep the 4 best players that will help you win this year. I would think Forsberg is more proven to help you win this year. plus you get a 4 round advantage.

So you get Forsberg, plus your first round pick and his first round pick to help you win this year.

I have to agree with Penguin Hunter. If I were to pick one to go over 70pts next year, I take Forsberg, If you look at Tavares last year, he struggled to break 70pts. No guarantees Eichel will explode to pass that mark.

When you think about the player you're going to get in a keep 4 with the 7th overall pick - you're looking at the 63rd best player versus, 120th player (roughly based on 5th round) Who you get at #7 in the 1st is going to be significantly better than who you get in the 5th round.

Forsberg > Eichel this year + the upgraded pick. That does it for me

[Sulla]

As long as that 7th overall is the re draft and not the prospect draft I definitely do it

[CascadeFilly]

Wow, I guess I'm in the minority, but I'd be clinging to Eichel here. Forsberg+ is not close, in my opinion.

[Eskimo Brother]

Needless to say I'm on the Forsberg side here. They come out even over the next 2-3 years, plus you get the upgrade in picks.

[PenguinHunter]

Needless to say I'm on the Forsberg side here. They come out even over the next 2-3 years, plus you get the upgrade in picks.

I feel Forsberg will be ahead for the next 2-3 years. The Nashville team is going to be a powerhouse. Buffalo's young guys will have a learning curve, similar to Edmontons struggles with all there young guys.

[Eskimo Brother]

I feel Forsberg will be ahead for the next 2-3 years. The Nashville team is going to be a powerhouse. Buffalo's young guys will have a learning curve, similar to Edmontons struggles with all there young guys.

I think Eichel is goo enough to drag himself into the conversation there. But it's close enough the next few years anyways.

[tomastop]

I would not trade Eichel for Forsberg.

[VintageVibe]

Wow, I guess I'm in the minority, but I'd be clinging to Eichel here. Forsberg+ is not close, in my opinion.

I would not trade Eichel for Forsberg.

I'm with these guys and gotta say that I am very surprised people are telling you to take Forsberg. He's a 60-65 point guy. He's never going to get 80 points...

Eichel could very well outscore him next year. And in 2-3 years it won't be close... Jack will be an 80-90+ point guy.

Hate repeating myself, but Jack Eichel is going to be a top 10 guy in the league sooner rather then later and shouldn't be traded unless you're getting yourself a package that 100% of us agree you should take - which just isn't the case right now.

You need to ask for more from the other owner or keep the more valuable (soon to be unattainable) player here... and I'm not talking about Forsberg.

[Sulla]

Forsberg has just come off back to back 60 point seasons as a 20 amd 21 year old and now has a comtract that guarantees him golden boy status and also scored approx 39 in 42 games after the RyJo trade... What also seems to be forgotten here is that it isn't a straight swap and the draft pick also carries pretty good value who according to some could be the likes of Carlsson

so would I do Forsberg and Carlsson for Eichel? Yes. Could Eichel outscore Forsberg next year? Possibly but I do t think he does. Could Eichel have better numbers in 2/3 years? Probably but he doesn't outscore the combined production hence the love for Forsberg in this thread

[lucafen4]

Forsberg has just come off back to back 60 point seasons as a 20 amd 21 year old and now has a comtract that guarantees him golden boy status and also scored approx 39 in 42 games after the RyJo trade... What also seems to be forgotten here is that it isn't a straight swap and the draft pick also carries pretty good value who according to some could be the likes of Carlsson

so would I do Forsberg and Carlsson for Eichel? Yes. Could Eichel outscore Forsberg next year? Possibly but I do t think he does. Could Eichel have better numbers in 2/3 years? Probably but he doesn't outscore the combined production hence the love for Forsberg in this thread

This. It's totally the addition of the picks that sways this into the yes - trade Eichel camp. In a straight 1-1, I'd be inclined to reject the trade, but it's not.

[VintageVibe]

Forsberg has just come off back to back 60 point seasons as a 20 amd 21 year old and now has a comtract that guarantees him golden boy status and also scored approx 39 in 42 games after the RyJo trade... What also seems to be forgotten here is that it isn't a straight swap and the draft pick also carries pretty good value who according to some could be the likes of Carlsson

so would I do Forsberg and Carlsson for Eichel? Yes. Could Eichel outscore Forsberg next year? Possibly but I do t think he does. Could Eichel have better numbers in 2/3 years? Probably but he doesn't outscore the combined production hence the love for Forsberg in this thread

I understand all of that.

I am just saying that Eichel will not be available via re-draft if he deals him away today. He is a 1st or 2nd keeper today for rebuilding teams... in 2-3 years a 1st/2nd keeper for championship contending teams.

Whereas Forsberg will always be somewhere between a fringe keeper at best to a 1st (maybe even 2nd) rounder in redrafts in a keep 4, 14 team league.

He should be getting better value for a player that will be right behind McDavid in terms of production and value for many years to come.

I'd definitely be asking for more than Forsberg + one draft pick upgrade. At the very least get a second draft pick upgrade.

[CascadeFilly]

Forsberg has just come off back to back 60 point seasons as a 20 amd 21 year old and now has a comtract that guarantees him golden boy status and also scored approx 39 in 42 games after the RyJo trade... What also seems to be forgotten here is that it isn't a straight swap and the draft pick also carries pretty good value who according to some could be the likes of Carlsson

so would I do Forsberg and Carlsson for Eichel? Yes. Could Eichel outscore Forsberg next year? Possibly but I do t think he does. Could Eichel have better numbers in 2/3 years? Probably but he doesn't outscore the combined production hence the love for Forsberg in this thread

Conversely, Eichel put up 56 points in his rookie season, on a terrible Buffalo Sabres squad. It's also a keep 4, so what's Carlson going to do for the OP after this coming season? If you don't win this season, you've crapped away a fantastic, potentially elite player (Eichel) for a very good player (Forsberg). If you lose Eichel here, you're never getting him back. Players like him don't come along every season.

[VintageVibe]

Conversely, Eichel put up 56 points in his rookie season, on a terrible Buffalo Sabres squad. It's also a keep 4, so what's Carlson going to do for the OP after this coming season? If you don't win this season, you've crapped away a fantastic, potentially elite player (Eichel) for a very good player (Forsberg). If you lose Eichel here, you're never getting him back. Players like him don't come along every season.

Exxxxxactly.