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    Its a classic technique to talk a guy down like that. Can I guarantee the Breadman hits 70+ again? no. But aside from Crosby/Ovi and a few others the same can be said of literally every player. He should be a lock for 65+ even if Kane doesn't get 100pts (and he easily could) and so I'd want something coming back that had some real value. Remember that Anisomov got a fantasy value bump, sure, but its not like he ran a 60pt season centring those two all year.

    If you're really worried about a hard regression I'd suggest 3 things.
    1-Look into his underlying numbers using the Dobber tools and see if things like his IPP, PDO, on ice SH%, etc were abnormally high. I haven't looked but I'm betting they weren't insane.
    2-Make sure you turn over every rock. I'm the most active seller in my league when I decide I want to make a move. Its led me to getting smaller returns at times than I should have because now everyone knows I'm shopping a guy, but more often than not its led me to deals I didn't think were there at all.
    3-Counter deals. I've been happy with exactly 2 deals ever that I was offered. And remember in this to ask yourself if you'd accept the deal if you were on the other side.
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    Move on that guy won't offer you value - the Draisatl offer is interesting - wouldn't mind seeing the rest of that roster?
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    Don't move Panarin unless someone is going to overpay which is unlikely. And with how I have been hearing people talk about Panarin, I think he offers a good buying opportunity. People who say that Panarin was merely the product of Kane are wrong. The two meshed very well with each other but it wasn't as if Panarin was just tagging along. Panarin is one of the major reasons why Kane was so productive last season. And even if Panarin is separated from Kane, something I am hoping for as a Hawks fan, Panarin would then be skating with Toews.

    You don't want to trade with anybody that sees Panarin and Drouin as equal. Just keep Panarin.
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    Drouin and panarin are not equal. At least not this year or next. Trade talks would prob end there for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noddes55 View Post
    Drouin and panarin are not equal. At least not this year or next. Trade talks would prob end there for me
    I really hope they did... Last I checked only one finished in the top 10 in scoring last year, or top 100 for that matter. Drouin's potential does not make him equal to one currently doing. I would wait to see who he wrongly undervalues on his roster though. Forward thinking
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    i own panarin. got a manager kicking tires on him....offering buchnevich, teravainen and a prospect. not in the same universe? what should i be getting back
    Not in the same universe.

    I'd definitely be shopping Panarin around for a big name player like Benn, Seguin, Stamkos, Malkin, not saying you can get it, but Panarin's value is very much inflated right now so you never know. But no, that wouldn't make me give him up.

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    If he see's Panarin and Drouin as equals this coming season, then I don't think he really wants Panarin..

    Unless he is willing to give up something of value then politely decline!!
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