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    Found this kind of interesting at this point in the year....

    http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/ml...arter-rankings

    Really shows what they think of some guys....

    Pomeranz at 74
    Hill at 77
    Happ at 99 (when Shelby Miller is 85????)
    Gray at 19

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    Zach Wheeler is tough to peg. I have no idea where I would put him right now.
    Happ is so low because he's 35.
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    I don’t get how Machado is listed as a SS. He has the designation as SS, but he’s a 3B when the Orioles are healthy. But they don’t have Aledmys Diaz in the 2B list….i dunno. All the lists are off.

    Puig that high too, he’s not a power threat anymore oddly. I don’t get why Brantley is higher than Syndergaard on the overall list, there’s a bunch of this that’s off, but Baseball is hard to judge.
    12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    I agree....but maybe that's why I don't use CBS.

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    Archer went from top ten you what 45? That's a huge drop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    Archer went from top ten you what 45? That's a huge drop!
    Well, there’s like a “good game score” that is given, don’t ask me how it works I don’t know haha. But Archer is at a 51 this yr. You start a game at 50. It’s like a QBR. But starting gets you 50, he’s at 51. He’s been terrible.

    I’ve seen a couple of his games. His slider is off, which his whole gameplan and confidence is based off of. It’s not like Harvey where you knew something is wrong health wise, this is he just can’t hit his slider. Maybe he’s tipping his pitch off this yr and the TBR haven’t found out yet.
    12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Well, there’s like a “good game score” that is given, don’t ask me how it works I don’t know haha. But Archer is at a 51 this yr. You start a game at 50. It’s like a QBR. But starting gets you 50, he’s at 51. He’s been terrible.

    I’ve seen a couple of his games. His slider is off, which his whole gameplan and confidence is based off of. It’s not like Harvey where you knew something is wrong health wise, this is he just can’t hit his slider. Maybe he’s tipping his pitch off this yr and the TBR haven’t found out yet.
    To add some context to the Game Score reference, check out the following article that is pretty useful in explaining its definition:
    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/201...ames-tom-tango

    Short story, a Game Score of 51 is actually around average considering the best pitchers in the history of baseball average a Game Score of around 58. I believe the MLB average is around 52 so Archer has been around average this season. Last year he was up near 58 hence why he was highly regarded coming into this season.
    10 Team Yahoo H2H Keep 5 G, A, PPP, FOW, SOG, HITS, BLKS, W, GAA, SV, SV%
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNugeCooge View Post
    To add some context to the Game Score reference, check out the following article that is pretty useful in explaining its definition:
    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/201...ames-tom-tango

    Short story, a Game Score of 51 is actually around average considering the best pitchers in the history of baseball average a Game Score of around 58. I believe the MLB average is around 52 so Archer has been around average this season. Last year he was up near 58 hence why he was highly regarded coming into this season.
    I heard it while watching his last start, they didn’t go into as much detail but they made it sound like it was such a bad thing lol
    12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Was Archer's last start a turnaround for him this season? I have guys in my league interested in him. Time to Trade or Hold

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    Was Archer's last start a turnaround for him this season? I have guys in my league interested in him. Time to Trade or Hold
    11ks through 6IP, 4 hits, 2R.

    Plus rumours of trades of him going to the NL.
    12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    11ks through 6IP, 4 hits, 2R.

    Plus rumours of trades of him going to the NL.
    If this wasn't enough, I say hold.
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    I personally wouldn’t put any stock into the “Going to the NL”. The Cubs are the only team I think would have the tools to move for a pitcher as high as Archer’s pedigree and not hurt their team that much, but I think I heard they aren’t going to do a big blockbuster.

    They had a deal almost lined up that had them getting Pomeranz, then flipping him plus a prospect for a pitcher no one knew was on the move. Archer not believed to be that guy either. But Padres wanted Baez+ and they weren’t willing to do that. So Padres moved on.
    12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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