Top 5 2016 vs a couple of mine

[Potatoeman]

Not sure if this is in the right thread as it also deals with drafted prospects, but here goes.

It's for the league in my signature, so farm team players are automaticaly kept for free until I decide to move them up (whenever I want, no time/GP limit).

Another guy in my league has started asking me about W.Nylander and/or M.Rantanen. I know he has a couple of 1st round picks. Draft lottery hasn't happened yet so we still don't know where they'll end up, but odds are good that at least one will be a top 5 pick (5/36 balls in the pot for one pick and 6/36 for the other, my 1st round pick only has 1/36).

Figuring the top 5, fantasy wise, should be close to : A.Mathews, P.Laine, J.Puljujarvi, M.Tkatchuk, A.Nylander. (some posts see Dubois as a possible top 5 fantasy-wise)

Would you trade either W.Nylander or Rantanen for any of them? (if so, which for whom?)

Thanks!

[Potatoeman]

In case this changes anything, the other guy's 1st round picks will be, worst case, top 8 picks.

[Goldendelicious]

I'd hold onto Willie and Mikko here (though I'm not a big fan of Willie tbh)...but these two are closer to the NHL and the picks you're trading for are no guarantee and by no means are you sure to land any one of the Matthews, the Fins, Tkachuk or Dubois...Rantanen and Nylander both had great rookie seasons in the AHL this year, no reason to sell them off for two other prospects not as far along in the development line.

[Axeman33]

I'd put both Rantanen and WNylander right in the mix with the Fins and Tkachuk. I wouldnt say they are ahead of them but I wouldnt put them behind them either. Close to equal for me. Matthews is ahead of all of them.

I dont consider Dubois in that same league yet but thats just my opinion. He would be behind all of them right now.

I wouldnt trade Rantanen or WNylander for anything less than a top four pick.

[FinnishFlash]

I'd put both Rantanen and WNylander right in the mix with the Fins and Tkachuk. I wouldnt say they are ahead of them but I wouldnt put them behind them either. Close to equal for me. Matthews is ahead of all of them.

I dont consider Dubois in that same league yet but thats just my opinion. He would be behind all of them right now.

I wouldnt trade Rantanen or WNylander for anything less than a top four pick.

I agree with this. I have Rantanen and W. Nylander in the same company as the two Finn's this year. Seeing as I've been impressed with Rantanen and Nylander in their first pro seasons, I think I'd give them a slight edge. I don't think Dubois has the upside of any of those guys, although he's probably a more complete two way guy.

I'd rank them:

1. Matthews
2. W. Nylander
3. Rantanen
4. Laine
5. Pujuljarvi
6. Tkachuk
7. A. Nylander
8. Dubois

And if you're alo including defenceman, I'd slide Chychrun into the #7 slot. I think he's going to be very Ekblad-like.

[Shift Disturber]

And if you're alo including defenceman, I'd slide Chychrun into the #7 slot. I think he's going to be very Ekblad-like.

I have seen this before and wonder where these comparisons are coming from. If Chychrun is that good then why is he not seriously in the discussion for no. 1 overall? Was Ekblad's draft class that much weaker than this one?

[Goldendelicious]

Moreso Ekblad-lite than Ekblad-like...he will be a very good defenseman and a franchise one at that, but he's not quite in Ekblad's class

[forsbergfan]

personally, i'd take both the finns over rantanen, but not nylander. I see nylander as a franchise player, future superstar. rantanen is very patric-hornqvist-esque, which is really good, but I don't think as good as the finns will be. laine is probably the best goal scorer to come out of the draft since ovechkin - let's not forget that. and puljujarvi should be just as good.

[franklin]

My ranking:

Matthews
Laine
Nylander
Puljujarvi
Rantanen

I would'nt do that trade.

And regarding Dubois, his upside is higher than people think.

[Goldendelicious]

My ranking:

Matthews
Laine
Nylander
Puljujarvi
Rantanen

I would'nt do that trade.

And regarding Dubois, his upside is higher than people think.

Thank you...I'm glad somebody finally said it #norespect

[Bass56]

Since you can't guarantee that you will get a top-5 pick, I would hold on to what you have. If he lands the 1st, try trading him both your guys for Matthews; he may bite...

[Fast Tony DeNiro]

I have seen this before and wonder where these comparisons are coming from. If Chychrun is that good then why is he not seriously in the discussion for no. 1 overall? Was Ekblad's draft class that much weaker than this one?

Short answer: yes.

Ekblad would for sure go after Matthews, and possibly the Finns as well if they were all 18 year old draftees. Chychrun is not quite on Ekblad's level, but they are similar players and prospects.