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    With my keeperr league categories in mind, how would you rank these goalies? I'm leaning...

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    Default Re: Mrazek vs Dubnyk vs Hellebuyck

    Short term

    Dub
    Mrazek
    Hellebuyck

    Long term:

    Hellebuyck
    Mrazek
    Dub
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    Default Re: Mrazek vs Dubnyk vs Hellebuyck

    Obvious Dubnyk bias for me as an owner, but let's work this out:

    Games started - Dubnyk (he was a total workhorse last year down the stretch and has no competition in Dacy Kuemper). The other two are not even bona fide #1s yet.

    Wins - Dubnyk - (Probably the best team, and with most starts, he gets this category), then I guess Mrazek, Hellebuyck based on team strength (and WPG probably losing Ladd and Byfuglien)

    Losses - I'd say Dubnyk again, based on the strength of his team. More losses overall based on higher # of starts, but best W/L ratio.

    GAA - Dubnyk - Here are the team's goals allowed this year and last: MIN (2.35/2.41) DET (2.5/2.57) WPG (2.8/2.51). MIN is best in both years. Solid defensive team.

    SA - Mrazek or Hellebuyck - Here are the shots against per team for the last two years MIN (28.7/27.6) DET (30.4/28.3) WPG (30.1/28.7). So it's basically very close between Mrazek or Hellebuyck.

    SV% - This is the toughest to call. Hellebuyck has such a small sample size in the NHL. Same with Mrazek. Dubnyk is tough to call becuase his inconsitency is enormous from team to team. While Mrazek and Hellebuyck are both over .930 at the moment, Dubnyk is no slouch at .921 and he has a .929 last year while Mrazek was a more pedestrian .918. I have read articles that WPG does a good job at limiting 'quality chances' so maybe edge goes to Hellebuyck.

    SO - Dubnyk - Go with the team with the fewest shots allowed and lowest GA.

    Conclusion:
    Dubnyk
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    Mrazek
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    Default Re: Mrazek vs Dubnyk vs Hellebuyck

    Dubnyk
    Mrazek
    Hellebuyck

    I'm a big fan of Hellebuyck. And it's close between him and Mrazek. But he is the less proven and I think he should be the last on your list.
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    Default Re: Mrazek vs Dubnyk vs Hellebuyck

    Mrazek
    Dubnyk
    Hellebuyck

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    Default Re: Mrazek vs Dubnyk vs Hellebuyck

    Quote Originally Posted by JAMZ View Post
    Obvious Dubnyk bias for me as an owner, but let's work this out:

    Games started - Dubnyk (he was a total workhorse last year down the stretch and has no competition in Dacy Kuemper). The other two are not even bona fide #1s yet.

    Wins - Dubnyk - (Probably the best team, and with most starts, he gets this category), then I guess Mrazek, Hellebuyck based on team strength (and WPG probably losing Ladd and Byfuglien)

    Losses - I'd say Dubnyk again, based on the strength of his team. More losses overall based on higher # of starts, but best W/L ratio.

    GAA - Dubnyk - Here are the team's goals allowed this year and last: MIN (2.35/2.41) DET (2.5/2.57) WPG (2.8/2.51). MIN is best in both years. Solid defensive team.

    SA - Mrazek or Hellebuyck - Here are the shots against per team for the last two years MIN (28.7/27.6) DET (30.4/28.3) WPG (30.1/28.7). So it's basically very close between Mrazek or Hellebuyck.

    SV% - This is the toughest to call. Hellebuyck has such a small sample size in the NHL. Same with Mrazek. Dubnyk is tough to call becuase his inconsitency is enormous from team to team. While Mrazek and Hellebuyck are both over .930 at the moment, Dubnyk is no slouch at .921 and he has a .929 last year while Mrazek was a more pedestrian .918. I have read articles that WPG does a good job at limiting 'quality chances' so maybe edge goes to Hellebuyck.

    SO - Dubnyk - Go with the team with the fewest shots allowed and lowest GA.

    Conclusion:
    Dubnyk
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    Hellebuyck
    Mrazek
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    For the rest of this season:
    Mrazek
    Dubs
    Helle

    Long term:
    Mrazek
    Hellebuyck
    Dubs

    Not a big believer in Doobie long term. Huge believer in both Mrazek and Hellebuyck. They have big time upside and the time to get there. Dubnyk is turning 30 this season. His peak has been hit last year and its aaaaaall downhill from there. I'll admit, its hard not be downhill since he was so great last year.
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    Default Re: Mrazek vs Dubnyk vs Hellebuyck

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Joe Davola View Post
    For the rest of this season:
    Mrazek
    Dubs
    Helle

    Long term:
    Mrazek
    Hellebuyck
    Dubs

    Not a big believer in Doobie long term. Huge believer in both Mrazek and Hellebuyck. They have big time upside and the time to get there. Dubnyk is turning 30 this season. His peak has been hit last year and its aaaaaall downhill from there. I'll admit, its hard not be downhill since he was so great last year.
    That would be my ranking too....+1
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    This year: Dubnyk Mrazek Hellebuyck

    Longterm: Hellebuyck Mrazek Dubnyk
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    Default Re: Mrazek vs Dubnyk vs Hellebuyck

    I have both Hellebuyck and Mrazek in my keeper league. Every time I start Hellboy over Mrazek, I regret it. So for that I'm saying:

    Mrazek
    Hellebuyck
    Dubnyk

    At some point you have to expect Hellebuyck will overtake Mrazek long-term. However, Mrazek is also a great young tender. IMO Mrazek's current play (more consistent than Hellebuyck), have him above Hellebuyck for the next while. Long-term proooobably Hellebuyck.

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