Time to Trade Holtby?

[TeamFoster4]

Offer is Ovechkin + Getzlaf + Pavelec for Holtby.

Send Braden Holtby, Wsh G from G to XXX
Receive Ryan Getzlaf, Ana C from XXX to Bench
Receive Alex Ovechkin, Wsh RW from XXX to Bench
Undisclosed Player will be conditionally dropped by Team XXX
Receive Ondrej Pavelec*, Wpg G from XXX to Bench

The WW is thin for Goalie Talent with just fillers / back-ups.
Would leave me with Fleury, Andersen, Pavelec and
one of these net minders:

Linus Ullmark, Buf
Michael Hutchinson, Wpg
Reto Berra, Col
Jonas Gustavsson, Bos
Eddie Lack, Car
Jonas Hiller, Cgy
Anders Lindback, Ari
Antti Raanta, NYR
Curtis McElhinney, Cls
Anton Khudobin, Ana
Scott Darling, Chi
Jhonas Enroth, LA
Alex Stalock, SJ
Keith Kinkaid, NJ
Garret Sparks*, Tor
Carter Hutton, Nsh
Joni Ortio, Cgy
Richard Bachman, Van
Jean-Francois Berube*, NYI
Juuse Saros, Nsh
Kristers Gudlevskis, TB
Matthew O'Connor, Ott
Calvin Pickard, Col
Magnus Hellberg, NYR
Malcolm Subban, Bos

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League Scoring:

ESPN - 12 Team H2H with 36 Keepers and 4 Goalie Max

Goaltending
Wins (W) Losses (L)* Saves (SV) Shutouts (SO) Overtime Losses (OTL)*
Goals Against Average (GAA)* Save Percentage (SV%)* *Minimum 4 GS

Skating
Goals (G) Assists (A) Plus/minus (+/-) Penalty Minutes (PIM) Faceoffs Won (FOW) Hits (HIT)
Blocked Shots (BLK) Defensemen Points (DEF) Special Teams Points (STP)

My Roster:

C: Crosby, Malkin, Backstrom, Strome, Wennberg, Strome, Marner, Barzal
LW: E.Kane, Landeskog, Kunitz, McGinn, Pearson, Hertl, Jokinen, Drouin, Dal Colle
RW P. Kane, Nyquist, Hornqvist, Connolly, Fabbri, Yakupov*, Nylander, Mantha,
D: Letang*, Giordano, Sekera, Gostisbehere, Savard*, Leddy, Krug, Reinhart, DeAngelo, Wisniewski*
G: Braden Holtby, Frederik Andersen, Zatkoff, Fleury*

[forumname]

I would normally be screaming at you to do it, but in your situation I'm not sure it's a good idea. Is it h2h or roto? If h2h I would still do it because I don't believe in the value of goalies, but I don't see how you could afford to do it in a roto with 8/17 categories coming from your goalies.

[TeamFoster4]

It is H2H. (Updated my first post)

I sold off all my 2nd and 3rd tier players for the best prospects I could pry from managers.
So I have a nice roster that could be skater talent heavy in 2 or 3 years.

Fleury plus a couple other prospects now and be ready to compete for the win at that time.
With all the prospect skaters, I am in the bottom 4 of the league.
A top 1-4 pick should be coming in the 2016 entry/prospect draft.

Maybe try to land the next Gibson/Hellebuyck that comes along next season?

Thank you for the reply. Rep'd!

[forumname]

Just took another look at your roster, and you seem to have a dangerous mix of current superstars and far-off prospects (looks like you posted again with some mention of this). You have superstars and children, and in a few years you're going to have superstars and dinosaurs. Difficult to compete with both of those combos.

In order to win, you need to have everyone (more or less) on the same page at the same time, so I think you need to set some kind of a window and start making decisions based on it. If you don't plan on being competitive for a few more years, then I'm not sure Ovechkin is a very good investment. He's not ancient or anything, but goal scorers have a tendency to fade earlier than other types, and by the time your other guys mature he may be nothing more than a 2015 Iginla. You have a ton of high end talent and should easily be able to contend if you were to sell off some of the younger stuff and add some actual productive depth to your skaters (the reverse of what you've already done). If it was me I would take Ovechkin, sell off most of the prospects, and win this damn thing next year. Just my 2 cents

[rangerfan2430]

Even though it would hurt your goaltending, I'd still make the trade. Getting Ovechkin and Getzlaf is quite a haul

[Rato]

Goalie's worth is way too volatile to refuse this imho.

[#1Sakic]

Getting Ovy and Getz for Holtby ... dude press the button ! and RUN ... RUN ... RUN ! LOL

[TeamFoster4]

EVERYONE....

Had to wait until 11:30am to see if the trade cleared. Pending Trade Vote was 6 Yes - 3 No - 3 Didn't Vote.

Final exchange was:

Ovechkin + Getzlaf + Pavelec + Louis Domingue, Ari G
for
Holtby and Scott Darling (who I picked off WW the day before)

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for all the advice and comments!
Christmas Rep's for All.


UPDATED ROSTER:

C: Crosby, Malkin, Backstrom, Getzlaf, Strome, Wennberg, Strome, Marner, Barzal
LW: Ovechkin, E.Kane, Landeskog, Kunitz, McGinn, Pearson, Hertl, Jokinen, Drouin*, Dal Colle
RW: P. Kane, Nyquist, Hornqvist, Fabbri, Yakupov*, Nylander, Mantha,
D: Letang*, Giordano, Sekera, Gostisbehere, Savard*, Leddy, Krug, Reinhart, DeAngelo, Wisniewski*
G: Frederik Andersen, Louis Domingue, MA Fleury*, O. Pavelec*

Will head to the WW for two filler goalies until Fleury and Pavelec come off IR.

[pmorrow]

Why did some people vote no to that? Do the guys in your league know that the no vote is not for "I don't like this trade"? lol. Terrific deal. You are getting two superstars (buying low on one) and an okay goalie. You'll be fine.

[Brosive]

Wow, your forward group is ridiculous now (even more so than before)..
Crosby, Malkin, Backstrom, Getzlaf, Ovechkin, P. Kane

Its like you had 6 first round picks

[TeamFoster4]

Wow, your forward group is ridiculous now (even more so than before)..
Crosby, Malkin, Backstrom, Getzlaf, Ovechkin, P. Kane

Its like you had 6 first round picks

Thinking that VAN and Stone were going to regress this season, in the preseason I got:
Ryan Strome, Gabriel Landeskog, James Wisniewski* Wis got hurt on his 2nd shift of the season.
for my:
Henrik Sedin, Daniel Sedin, Alexander Edler, Mark Stone.

and then got: Patrick Kane, Torey Krug, and William Nylander
for my:
Mark Borowiecki and Henrik Zetterberg

In season....
Landed Mitchell Marner and Jussi Jokinen
for my:
Jimmy Hayes and Jared McCann

Got Tomas Hertl for my Michal Neuvirth

Acquired Alexander Wennberg, Griffin Reinhart, Dan Boyle and Evander Kane
for my:
Jason Spezza, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Jason Demers

Picked up Anthony Mantha for my Tommy Wingels

Snagged Robby Fabbri for my Jannik Hansen and Mike Condon

Lastly: Ovechkin + Getzlaf + Pavelec + Louis Domingue, Ari G
for my:
Holtby and Scott Darling

My plan was to use hot players on the WW and on my roster that were older than 30 years old
to flip to other managers that were just a few points behind the guy in front of them in the standings
saying that they needed the production of the player I was offering for the prospect that was eating a roster spot.

Fabbri, Mantha, Wennberg, Reinhart, Hertl, and Marner all acquired in that manner.

Will use these prospects to flip to address holes as the playoffs approach.



Thanks for all the Comments and Advice in this thread!