Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
I'm not surprised considering he'd be a very expensive rental.
https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/re...rade/158459084
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Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
if he could guarentee an extension maybe it would have went down. but even if he could i doubt he would have liked the contract he'd have to give, i think at minimum Buff is looking for 7x7. theyd be better off trading hamonic for someone similar skill/cap and then if buff is available as a rental closer to the TDD trade for him then.
Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
it wouldnt be good asset management(hamonic for byf) but you have to admit , aquiring Byfuglien would give the isles a good shot in the arm towards getting out of ROUND 2 .
maybe the guy likes it in brooklyn and signs for reasonable long term deal
Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
If there were a sweetener (like a defensive prospect) coming from the Jets the Islanders should really consider this. Byfuglien is a game changer on the Islanders.
Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
Trouba for Hamonic would have been a much more tempting offer.
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Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
If the Oilers and Jets were willing to part with those two assets, a deal would have already been made IMO. Neither the Jets nor the Oilers are willing to part with those two building blocks.I can't blame Garth for saying no to Byfuglien, simply because he's a pending UFA. Don't get me wrong, Byfuglien is a very good player, but I don't think Garth is as interested in him as he would be in guys like Jacob Trouba or Darnell Nurse simply because of their cap situation.
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Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
agreed. perhaps if the hamonic trade request didn't go public it might have happened, but i just don't see a GM giving up fair value when you're pretty much forced to trade him to a limited # of teams.Originally Posted by Axeman33
realistically no team will give up a similar talent D as hamonic for him, so their best bet might be to try and trade him for a winger and then move Okposo for a similar value D (Buff? both are upcoming UFAs i think).
Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
I don't totally agree with this, if only because of Hamonic's contract. Hamonic is a bargain and that's very enticing to a GM. I think this is all a dance right now and there could be a trade involving equal type players with the Isles losing a few years or taking on salary or both, but getting a player of equal talent back. It's still a challenge, but I think something can be done. More realistic is a bigger trade involving more player, picks etc.
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Skaters - G, A, +/-, PPP, PIM, HITS, BS, GWG, SOG
Goalies - Wins, Saves, S%, GAA (Min. 4 starts)
Championships 2007, 2009, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2019*, 2023
C-McDavid, Trocheck, Suzuki
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R-Hyman(L/R), Svechnikov(L/R), P. Kane
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Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
Not to hijack this thread (although my question is linked to the topic), but did Hamonic or his entourage finally specify the exact teams he was looking to be dealt to instead of just ''western teams'' as the initial reports stated?
I wonder if a team like Toronto may come into play? I know the distance is similar to NY, but without any boarders, the travel time is much quicker/easier. If not, his teams are very limited especially if the Jets are not willing to part with players that are signed beyond next year…
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Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
Smells to me like Big Buff wants a Big Contract when this season is done.
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Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
He's made it very clear he wants to go a western conference team.
Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
I'm just spitballin' here, but if Hamonic's family are in MB (and if it's the same place he was born, very southern MB) wouldn't a team like Minnesota or even Chicago make sense? I haven't looked at cap numbers or if a deal would even make sense but if he's willing to go to Edmonton or even Vancouver, those two teams would have to be on the radar, no?
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Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
Minny – Their D is already really good.
Suter-Brodin. Not going on that line
Scandella-Spurgeon. Not really in a need to get Hamonic to move on that line and push one down
Prosser-Dumba. You’d be replacing Prosser.
So do they trade a guy like Dumba? I wouldn’t. The D-core in Minny is just too strong to go out of their way and try to acquire Hamonic at his current price.
Chicago – they prolly don’t have the assets they want to move for him.
I’m pretty sure they’re locked in on western Canada, but NYI will have to broaden their scope if they want this deal done. Didn’t Hamonic request the trade back in September?
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Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
From what I have read, Hamonic has already added Minnesota as an option as a destination so that's not totally out of the question.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheHockey...7805978625?p=v
Rumor Roundup: Travis Hamonic expands list of trade destinations to Wild, Avalanche: thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-rou… pic.twitter.com/pjsl2RLeCH
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25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
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Re: Snow turns down Buf for Hammer offer.
Avs would be a great fit if they go for a Forward then trade Okposo for a D-man.
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