Giroux for Roman Josi

[skiteam14]

I don't know which GM I'm more disappointed in. Him for offering it, or you for not accepting right away

To be fair, he started this thread almost two weeks ago and as time has passed the offers seem to be more and more ridiculous.

[Invictus]

I don't know which GM I'm more disappointed in. Him for offering it, or you for not accepting right away

To be fair, he started this thread almost two weeks ago and as time has passed the offers seem to be more and more ridiculous.

@Snipshow Oh I was accepting this trade. It was more of an update but I was busy...
@Skiteam Yes that slow play :P I didnt really want to trade Josi straight up...

So was about to pick Spurgeon up but also Ristolainen is available... I heard him name being thrown around.. need to research him more

[schall1991]

I have just read this entire thread and am speechless. Who cares about whether or not someone is a defensemen or a forward? Giroux is better than Josi by A LOT. Just get Giroux and then shop around someone like Stone, Hudler, Little, or O'Reilly for a defensemen. Giroux is a first round pick every single year for a reason - he is undeniably an elite talent capable of performing at a point per game pace. He is someone I would be willing to trade almost ANY defensemen for...

[Invictus]

I have just read this entire thread and am speechless. Who cares about whether or not someone is a defensemen or a forward? Giroux is better than Josi by A LOT. Just get Giroux and then shop around someone like Stone, Hudler, Little, or O'Reilly for a defensemen. Giroux is a first round pick every single year for a reason - he is undeniably an elite talent capable of performing at a point per game pace. He is someone I would be willing to trade almost ANY defensemen for...

Trades rarely happen in our league and defense FA is pretty depleted compared to forward. the gain/loss was pretty close at the time and to me not worth the risk of Giroux not picking the pace up. Plus I'm really not big on Giroux, so what changes in Philly to make him start producing? I have much more confidence in Josi staying pat then Giroux picking it up. Regardless I'm much happier in the trade that was made.

[schall1991]

So you made the trade?

[suvojitde]

So you made the trade?

Looks like he did. Traded Barrie + Stone for Giroux and picked up Spurgeon from FA pool. That sound about right?

[Invictus]

Looks like he did. Traded Barrie + Stone for Giroux and picked up Spurgeon from FA pool. That sound about right?

Yes that's right. Sig changed I was also looking at Ristolainen also but decided on Spurgeon. I didn't have much time to look into both them was a little time crunched to pick up someone to have him for today (when the day changes on yahoo seems like its tied to when the standings update which is random). Numbers and situation look about the same but I think Spurgeon worked his way into a better spot then what he was at during the start of the year so went with him.

[suvojitde]

Yes that's right. Sig changed I was also looking at Ristolainen also but decided on Spurgeon. I didn't have much time to look into both them was a little time crunched to pick up someone to have him for today (when the day changes on yahoo seems like its tied to when the standings update which is random). Numbers and situation look about the same but I think Spurgeon worked his way into a better spot then what he was at during the start of the year so went with him.

Good call with Spurgeon. I think he is a good pick and helps circumvent some of the loss of D points with losing Josi.

[JagrBomb]

this thread should not have reached 3 pages

[snipshow101]

this thread should not have reached 3 pages

Shouldn't have reached 3 posts...

[SubbaNsalad]

I traded eichel and mike smith for Giroux. I would certaintly give up Josi for him. I would jump through the screen to accept if I had your d core and got this offer

[Invictus]

I traded eichel and mike smith for Giroux. I would certaintly give up Josi for him. I would jump through the screen to accept if I had your d core and got this offer

That's an even better trade then mine. Goalies have pretty much no trade value in our league. Mike Smith is just on the FA pile with probably about 4-5 goalies ahead of him that could get picked off.

You guys are really overrating how well a Josi for Giroux trade would benefit me. Sure I might be overvaluing Josi a little, but with our league settings and the hugely lack of defence available and how good my forwards are... Being the league leader the risk wasn't worth the award.

However the trade I did make suited me much better as I was replacing a lesser defensemen. The forward loss doesn't mean as much as I would of had to drop a forward anyway... albeit it would of been Vrbata but at the time of the original idea of Josi for Giroux he was on the first line and started getting points looking promising :/

And it wasn't too bad of a move for the other guy. He needed to do something to try and catch me. He had a pretty awful defense man to replace and got a solid forward producing more Fantasy points at the moment then Giroux. The hopes for him is Giroux continues to not produce at his normal career pace, while gaining points from a better defense in Tyson Barrie and slightly better fantasy point producer thus far in Stone (for the time being I hope).

To note I've noticed Stone is now off the 1st PP unit.

[Invictus]

Seasons end and to reflect on this post I made at the start of the year. Everyone was criticizing me for not giving up Roman Josi for Giroux.
Josi finished with about 10 fantasy points less then Giroux which equates to one game of great stat line. Definitely would of been a net loss for me on my replacement Def.
However the trade that did get accepted. Tyson Barrie + Stone --> Giroux was definitely a win for me. I was able to pick up a defense that finished with practically the same amount of fantasy points as Tyson Barrie and Giroux was a nice upgrade to Stone. That's not to say it wasn't a win for my trade partner either. He was able to upgrade a position and get a replacement for an IR player.

I've really grown to the strategy of drafting around slow starters and after a few months trying to buy low on them.

[Bra]

Ya.. just worried ill lose out on a substantial drop in points from def If i cant make a trade and have to pick up from FA

I am speaking to you from the future... Pick up Gostisbere....