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    Keeping Lundqvist and Fleury, so I feel secure in goal. I'm looking for some insurance though, a dependable #3 I can count on for spot-starts and such.

    I was thinking of grabbing Raanta (to lock in all NYR starts, usually a safe bet), but I noticed Mason wasn't kept and should be available around my first draft spot (first pick is in the second round, 18th overall). What do we think? Has PHI improved this year? They have 8 defensemen signed (I think), but none are incredibly good, which is a knock against.

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    Definitely feel good about Mason as your 3rd starter especially with Lundy and MAF as your top guys. Mason is very underrated.
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    I think Mason is a good choice, but with your solid goaltenders already, I'd say go for a high-producing forward (Foligno, Backes, Wheeler - all good with PIMS and point production) and settle for an Elliot or Pavelec (which is still pretty good) for your 3rd goalie. I'd say you could sacrifice a goalie pick for a good strong forward that's available. Get a goalie round #2 is my advice!
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    I think you'll get MORE value out of late-drafting Raanta, then you will by early drafting Mason.

    I haven't checked, but playing in the same division, NYR & PIT & PHI probably have a LOT of overlapping games.
    If your two goalies are Lundqvist/Fleury in a start 2G... then EVERY Raanta start, you'll have a spot for him.
    But you'll end up benching Mason a lot due to conflict.

    Maybe a round 8 replacement pick for 17 spots starts (with a guaranteed slot) for Raanta
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    Maybe a round 1 or 2 replacement pick for 25 starts (with ~35 conflict-benchings) for S.Mason

    That'll be roughly the difference, IMO.
    Better to get another skater... and late-draft the NYR/PIT back-ups, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    I think you'll get MORE value out of late-drafting Raanta, then you will by early drafting Mason.

    I haven't checked, but playing in the same division, NYR & PIT & PHI probably have a LOT of overlapping games.
    If your two goalies are Lundqvist/Fleury in a start 2G... then EVERY Raanta start, you'll have a spot for him.
    But you'll end up benching Mason a lot due to conflict.

    Maybe a round 8 replacement pick for 17 spots starts (with a guaranteed slot) for Raanta
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    Maybe a round 1 or 2 replacement pick for 25 starts (with ~35 conflict-benchings) for S.Mason

    That'll be roughly the difference, IMO.
    Better to get another skater... and late-draft the NYR/PIT back-ups, IMO.
    Couldn't of said it better. I'd go for the best forward available with your first pick, then grab Raanta later.

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    I wouldn't draft Raanta in the first round. I don't think he's guaranteed a spot as the Rags back-up. They also traded for Magnus Hellberg as well. I would draft a skater and wait on selecting your 3rd goalie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ Flex View Post
    I wouldn't draft Raanta in the first round. I don't think he's guaranteed a spot as the Rags back-up. They also traded for Magnus Hellberg as well. I would draft a skater and wait on selecting your 3rd goalie.
    Who is recommending draft Raanta first round?
    (read more carefully...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    Who is recommending draft Raanta first round?
    (read more carefully...)
    I am..


    "I was thinking of grabbing Raanta (to lock in all NYR starts, usually a safe bet)..."

    Just reconfirming that Raanta wouldn't be a good selection in the first even if Mason was not available.

    Need to chill on the criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ Flex View Post
    I am..


    "I was thinking of grabbing Raanta (to lock in all NYR starts, usually a safe bet)..."

    Just reconfirming that Raanta wouldn't be a good selection in the first even if Mason was not available.

    Need to chill on the criticism.
    It's not criticism.
    You haven't added any value in your response, because you've read it poorly.
    Here's what he wrote:
    I was thinking of grabbing Raanta (to lock in all NYR starts, usually a safe bet), but I noticed Mason wasn't kept and [Mason] should be available around my first draft spot (first pick is in the second round, 18th overall).

    It's quite clear (to me, at least) that he's considering a plan where his 3rd goalie would be Mason... Mason, using his first pick (instead of drafting Raanta much, much later - fair assumption).
    If he was debating between Raanta & S.Mason at his first overall pick that's how this thread would've read: "Should I pick Raanta or S.Mason?"

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    Well I guess to answer your first point, yes Mason would probably be the best #3 goalie in your league, he's more like a top end #2 goalie but you have so much top end in Lundy and MAF you don't really need to go that hard. Unless there is a serious lack of top end skaters at your pick I would pass on Mason and grab one of those. There are actually a few decent options for a #3 from that list, a guy like Ramo, Elliott or Raanta can probably be found later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    It's quite clear (to me, at least) that he's considering a plan where his 3rd goalie would be Mason... Mason, using his first pick (instead of drafting Raanta much, much later - fair assumption).
    If he was debating between Raanta & S.Mason at his first overall pick that's how this thread would've read: "Should I pick Raanta or S.Mason?"
    Yes, exactly. I wouldn't draft Raanta with one of my first few picks, but rather grab him in later rounds.

    On another note, I have a feeling someone might swoop in and grab Mason ahead of where I'd like to get him, so I think the advice in this thread pretty much solidifies that I should focus on forwards and not worry about a third goalie.
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    Mason would be an excellent 3rd goalie, though with your current goaltending you could get away with having a merely good goalie later on and receive a bigger boost with a skater. Besides, I wouldn't get my hopes up on the top available goalie lasting 18 picks to make it to you as there will likely be other GMs in desperate need of a solid 2nd G.
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