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  • Martin Jones

    11 22.00%
  • Robyn Lehner

    8 16.00%
  • Cam Talbot

    13 26.00%
  • John Gibson

    11 22.00%
  • Peter Mrazec

    18 36.00%
  • Andrei Vasilefsky

    25 50.00%
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    Hey guys,

    I've seen a few Talbot, Mrazec threads and Jones inquiries. Who's the best option going forward? This year and beyond

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    Hey Vanity,

    Welcome to the boards. I want to Talbot right now because I'm not sure who gets the reigns in Detroit - Howard is still in the mix and supposedly is coming into camp with a chip on his shoulder. If Talbot can be solid for the Oil, he could potentially be their goalie for a while - and I see them improving. As for Jones, I'm not fully sure. Yeah, the Sharks gave up a 1st for him, but I would rather go with Talbot if I'm rolling the dice on an "unproven."
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    (D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun,
    Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
    (G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka

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    If wins are most important then I go with Jones.
    Of course as the title indicates, he's unproven in a larger role, but will be the #1 and a very strong team.
    I think this gives Jones the edge here.

    Talbot I think plays ok and comes in 2nd place on this list.

    Lots of question marks about all these goalies for sure. Some good talent here though.

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    Hey Fungchen3,

    Thanks for the quick response! I didn't even get a chance to fill out the poll!

    I added a few other names in there that might make you change your mind....

    As always thanks for any input.

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    I would rank them:
    Talbot (clear cut starter and his to lose)
    Jones (50-50 and his to win)
    Mrazek (great play last year with a shaky Howard but the crease is far from his off the bat)
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    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
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    Long term I like Vas & Mra best of this bunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanity686 View Post
    Hey Fungchen3,

    Thanks for the quick response! I didn't even get a chance to fill out the poll!

    I added a few other names in there that might make you change your mind....

    As ways thanks for any input.
    YW buddy.

    Is this a keeper? How patient are you willing to be? Because I'd 100% go with Vasilevskiy, take my lumps and wait 2 years if needed - I like him that much. So if we're talking "beyond" - chalk me up for Vas.
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    Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
    D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
    Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10


    Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
    Captain: Matthews
    (F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
    (D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun,
    Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
    (G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungchen3 View Post
    YW buddy.

    Is this a keeper? How patient are you willing to be? Because I'd 100% go with Vasilevskiy, take my lumps and wait 2 years if needed - I like him that much. So if we're talking "beyond" - chalk me up for Vas.
    It is in fact a keeper. 13 team. Goalies are highly rated due to the scoring system ( 2 for SO + 2 for Win ). So I will most likely be keeping 2 goalies. My other goalie is Bob ( traded andersen for bob )

    I am I'm fact leaning towards Gibson. ( the andersen trade may be a factor here )

    It's been quite the question Gibson vs Vas, and I've been following it for a while. I Could see how people would want Vas, as he played a few playoff games in the Finals. They did however elect to start an injured Bishop over a Vas. My feelings are that if anderson had injury troubles, Gibson would have played, and possibly stolen

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    Stalock started 20+ with Niemi at the helm. These numbers should go up with Jones being brought in.

    Jones' crease to win though in my opinion. I could see

    50 -32 ish scenario

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    If willing to wait, I'd take Vasilevskiy here for sure.
    I think Jones is the short-term option (because the Sharks should be alright still and they seem to have confidence in him).
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    Vas ahead of everyone else.

    Mrazec got my other vote. I think he steals starting job from Howard by the end of next season.

    Howard will probably get traded next off season.
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    Win now mode:

    Jones
    Talbot
    Lehner
    Mrazek
    Vasilievsky
    Gibson

    Willing to wait:

    Vasilievsky
    Gibson
    Jones
    Mrazek
    Talbot
    Lehner

    I own both Vasilievsky and Gibson on my farm team and I'll be patient....
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    Are you in win now mode? If it's a keeper league that favours goaltending then I would sacrifice the now for a stud later

    Gibson - will light up the A and be the starter for 2016-2017. Big decision needed from Anaheim this year concerning goaltending. The khodobin move makes sense because rather than showcase one they can have both start a lot of games. ( Both contracts are up )

    Vas - developing nicely, on a great, young team

    Talbot- Edmonton will contend shortly. Just has to play well enough to be there when it happens

    Mrazek- Howards contract is the only thing keeping him from the reigns

    Jones - I think he's better than stalock, but it may take a third of the season to find out. I feel the sharks are a declining club

    Lehner - Ottawa is a great place for developing goalies. Why would they let him go and sign Hammond and a collegiate prospect......Also not convinced E Kane and O Reilly are the answer. ( eichel...I know I know )
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    This year: Jones.

    Beyond: Vasilevskiy.

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    I would want Gibson and Mrazek long term..

    Win now, Talbot and Jones..
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