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    Quote Originally Posted by evans334 View Post
    I'll let others weigh in, but I think we should leave all the positions the way they are currently and remove extra positions as they are added, at least for the rest of the season.

    Next season I think there is a bigger discussion that needs to be had over self managing the roster spots or allowing multiple positions.
    I agree with this. Thanks for all your hard work getting this stuff sorted out btw evans334!

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    First HUGE WHL trade last night between the Markham Waxers (praba) and Flint Firebirds (Pit Bulls)....

    I'll give a teaser of the two players switching teams:


    Ry-Jo & NickFo have been reunited... and it feels... so good.

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    At the quarter-mark (6gp) of the inaugural WHL regular season:
    [*Note - Just realizing that the standings by teams with same-record aren't ordered properly, should be by FantasyPointsFor if record same]

    1 Windsor Spitfires (Pengwin7) 6 0 0 12 1.000 3-0-0 343.75 277.43 6 (W)
    2 Halifax Krakens (GretzkysMullet) 6 0 0 12 1.000 0-0-0 301.98 179.45 6 (W)
    ...
    3 CSKA Moscow (rainydrinkwater) 5 1 0 10 .833 1-0-0 292.07 238.4 3 (W)

    ...
    4 Markham Waxers (praba) 4 2 0 8 .667 0-1-0 282.47 262.03 4 (W)
    5 Edmonton Road Runners (Lemmy) 4 2 0 8 .667 2-1-0 247.54 249.38 1 (W)
    6 Fort Frances Muskies (Burgundy) 4 2 0 8 .667 2-0-0 245.08 237.83 2 (W)
    7 Fall River's Finest (MCMackerel) 4 2 0 8 .667 1-0-0 283.47 233.3 1 (L)
    8 Grand Rapids Griffins (brakli) 4 2 0 8 .667 2-1-0 281.08 277.42 2 (W)
    9 Hartford Whalers (Savvy1982) 4 2 0 8 .667 0-0-0 228.34 218.17 1 (L)
    ...
    10 Vancouver Voodoo (GoNucks) 3 3 0 6 .500 1-0-0 244.81 245 1 (L)
    11 District-5 Ducks (evans334) 3 3 0 6 .500 0-1-0 298.86 271.16 2 (W)
    12 Saanichton Cougars (InForAPenny) 3 3 0 6 .500 0-1-0 298.25 287.96 2 (L)
    13 London Nationals (VintageVibe) 3 3 0 6 .500 0-0-0 219.07 246.49 1 (W)
    ...
    14 Oshawa Generals (Bobby4Ever) 2 4 0 4 .333 0-2-0 264.11 271.95 4 (L)
    15 Sierra Sasquatch (Pit Bulls) 2 4 0 4 .333 0-1-0 261.71 269.18 4 (L)
    16 Victoria Dead Hookers (Loch) 2 4 0 4 .333 0-1-0 237.82 282.44 1 (W)
    17 Montreal Canadiens (newfcollins) 2 4 0 4 .333 2-1-0 261.53 317.82 2 (L)
    18 Amsterdam Red Lights (rataylor22) 2 4 0 4 .333 0-1-0 252.07 294.06 1 (W)
    19 Wheeling Nailers (Brosive) 2 4 0 4 .333 1-0-0 242.21 260.86 1 (L)
    20 Braham Pietasters (glorybe23) 2 4 0 4 .333 0-1-0 317.26 315.44 2 (L)
    21 Cleveland Barons (gopack26) 2 4 0 4 .333 0-0-0 233.65 271.98 2 (L)
    22 Highland Scotch Hounds (seadawg) 2 4 0 4 .333 0-0-0 219.9 223.25 2 (W)
    ...
    23 Guelph Storm (havanablast21) 1 5 0 2 .167 0-2-0 217.84 252.67 2 (L)
    ...
    24 Manitoba Moose (GinFizz) 0 6 0 0 .000 0-1-0 154.29 245.49 6 (L)

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    I am temporarily activating Gostisbehere from my "Minors" roster to my "Active" roster. I will move him back to the "Minors" once he is demoted in the NHL.

    I believe I am allowed to do that, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    I am temporarily activating Gostisbehere from my "Minors" roster to my "Active" roster. I will move him back to the "Minors" once he is demoted in the NHL.
    I believe I am allowed to do that, correct?
    Absolutely.
    It counts as ONE of your weekly moves to promote him up to your PRO (/active) team... but you can do it.
    You can either move some other JR-eligible player down into his spot - or just drop a PRO guy. (I dropped Hunwick today to bring Josh Manson up from PRO - my first weekly move).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    17 Montreal Canadiens (newfcollins) 2 4 0 4 .333 2-1-0 261.53 317.82 2 (L)
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    Not good for a team near the cap. But while I am 12th in points for, I am dead last in points against. Just need to catch a few favourable matchups.

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    Boedker was given RW eligibility recently. Can a Commish remove it? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    Boedker was given RW eligibility recently. Can a Commish remove it? Thanks.
    Yes, will do - thanks.

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    Thanks man

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfcollins View Post
    Not good for a team near the cap. But while I am 12th in points for, I am dead last in points against. Just need to catch a few favourable matchups.
    I would also love a favourable matchup one of these weeks Newf.
    The 2-4 Pietasters are 2nd in Fantasy Points for (seriously - SECOND), and 2nd last in fantasy points against.
    We are the Dallas Stars of last season.

    I guess defense does win championships!
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    Don't frequent this thread all that often but I feel the need to say something:

    This league is amazing and incredibly well run. Kudos to everyone involved and a big thanks to Pengwin.
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    Glad you are enjoying it!
    I spent a lot of time researching the GMs that showed interest to pick out a group I thought would mesh well.
    In that sense, I think it's the entire group that makes the league so solid - always the key function of any good league is a good group of guys!!!
    {virtual hugs to all of you!}

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    Quote Originally Posted by VintageVibe View Post
    Don't frequent this thread all that often but I feel the need to say something:

    This league is amazing and incredibly well run. Kudos to everyone involved and a big thanks to Pengwin.
    couldn't agree more VV. And thanks Peng for highlighting my 2nd last placement in RED. Drives me nuts I have 2 losses where the point differential was so damn close. Oh well. Take my shots on the chin this year and hope for a step up next I suppose.

    (Really hope the Leaf's go on a fire sale later this year and perhaps increase the value of all these individual assets).

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    An attempt to clarify the WHL Draft Lottery.

    Step 1. Teams get their initial placement based on end-of-regular-season-record.
    End of regular season is record after week #23.

    Say it ends like this:
    Team A: 2-21 (last by WHL standings)
    Team B: 3-20 (2nd last by WHL standings)
    Team C: 3-20 (3rd last by WHL standings)
    Team D: 4-19 (4th last by WHL standings)
    Team E: 5-18 (5th last by WHL standings)
    Team F: 6-17 (6th last by WHL standings)
    Team G: 6-17 (7th last by WHL standings)
    Team H: 7-16 (8th last by WHL standings)
    Team J: 7-16 (9th last by WHL standings)
    etc. etc.

    Step 2: Teams can shift up 1 or 2 spots in that lottery order by WINNING or being RUNNER-UP in their playoff bracket.
    Bracket Runner-Up teams will move up 1 spot. This will be done first.
    Bracket Winning teams will move up 2 spots. This will be done second.

    The bottom bracket will include the bottom 8 teams.
    Let's say Team C wins that bracket.
    Let's say Team E is runner-up in that bracket.

    First, Team E will jump up it's one spot... so the lottery order will look like this:
    Team A: 2-21 (last by WHL standings)
    Team B: 3-20 (2nd last by WHL standings)
    Team C: 3-20 (3rd last by WHL standings)
    Team E: 5-18 (5th last by WHL standings)
    Team D: 4-19 (4th last by WHL standings)

    Then, we'll bump up Team C by TWO spots, which will look like this:
    1. Team C: 3-20 (3rd last by WHL standings)
    2. Team A: 2-21 (last by WHL standings)
    3. Team B: 3-20 (2nd last by WHL standings)
    4. Team E: 5-18 (5th last by WHL standings)
    5. Team D: 4-19 (4th last by WHL standings)

    Team C & E have increased their odds of winning the lottery by winning or being runner-up in their playoff bracket.


    Step 3. This becomes the WHL-LOTTERY-MATCHING-ORDER which will get linked to the NHL Lottery Order.
    We'll take each WHL team in Step2 list and pair it with the NHL team finishing last, 2nd last, 3rd last, 4th last...
    Let's say the NHL's reverse standing finish as follows:
    1. CBJ (last),
    2. ARI (2nd last),
    3. EDM (3rd last),
    4. CAR (4th last)...

    So...
    Team C (1st lottery spot) matched with NHL-CBJ (1st lottery spot)... 20% odds of getting pulled for highest slot
    Team A (2nd lottery spot) matched with NHL-ARI (2nd lottery spot)... 13.5% odds of getting pulled for highest slot
    Team B (3rd lottery spot) matched with NHL-EDM (3rd lottery spot)... 11.5% odds of getting pulled for highest slot
    Team E (4th lottery spot) matched with NHL-CAR (4th lottery spot)... 9.5% odds of getting pulled for highest slot
    etc.

    Step 4: NHL Draft Lottery Night - which will be SUPER-EXCITING FOR WHL GMs!!!
    Starting 2016, the NHL lottery is for the TOP THREE draft slots!!! (Lowering incentive for any team to "tank")
    Thus, the WHL will also be following suit.

    Let's say the NHL does it's draft lottery and it goes as follows:

    Pick #1: Carolina (NHL #4th last - matched with WHL Team E)
    Pick #2: Arizona (NHL #2nd last - matched with WHL Team A)
    Pick #3: Columbus (NHL #1st last - matched with WHL Team C)

    This means that the order of the WHL 1st Round for Propsects will go:
    Pick #1: Team E (linked to NHL-CAR)
    Pick #2: Team A (linked to NHL-ARI)
    Pick #3: Team C (linked to NHL-CBJ)
    Pick #4: Team B... worst remaining record in WHL by standings.
    Pick #5: Team D... next worst
    Pick #6: Team F... next worst etc.

    WHL 2nd Round is not by lottery
    Pick #1: Team A
    Pick #2: Team B
    Pick #3: Team C
    Pick #4: Team D
    Pick #5: Team E
    Pick #6: Team F
    etc.


    FAQ:
    1. If I finish last in WHL regular season, what is my best possible odds for the lottery?
    As long as teams finishing 2nd or 3rd last don't win your bracket, then you'll retain your HIGHEST-ODDS.
    Just like NHL's last place team, there'll be:
    20% shot at #1 overall pick
    ~35% shot at either #1 or #2 overall pick
    ~50% shot at either #1 or #2 or #3 overall pick
    50% shot of ending up with #4 pick.

    2. If I finish last in WHL regular standings, what is my worst-case odds of winning NHL lottery?
    If Team B is runner-up of playoff bracket and Team C is champ of playoff bracket, then the last place team (Team A) could get jumped over twice.
    They'd be matched up with the 3rd-last-place NHL team.
    This means:
    11.5% odds of #1 overall pick
    ~25% (ish) odds of #1 or #2 overall pick
    ~40% (ish) odds of #1 or #2 or #3 overall pick.

    3. What is the BEST team that could possibly win the WHL lottery?
    Any team that misses the big $$$ upper-tier playoffs could qualify & win the WHL lottery.
    A team finishing 9th in standings finishes 16th last.
    If they win the middle-tier bracket, they'll jump two spots to 14th last.
    This essentially matches them to the NHL team finishing 14th last and gives this team a 1.0%+ shot at the #1, #2 or #3 overall pick.

    4. It seems like there is still some benefit to having a competitive team for my end of year playoff bracket, is that true?
    Yes. Teams that strip down completely will have a tough time protecting their draft slot for lottery odds.

    5. I'm still confused. Is there a simpler answer?
    Sure.
    *If you finish last, you've got a 50% shot at a top 3 pick... and a 50% shot at the #4 pick overall. You'll still have 1st pick of the 2nd/3rd/4th/5th rounds.
    *Teams finishing 2nd or 3rd last will have about a 40% and 30% shot at a top 3 pick... and could finish with as low as a 5th overall or 6th overall pick.
    *Any team that misses the upper-tier playoffs technically has some chance to win the WHL lottery. By winning your tier playoff bracket, you can increase your odds about 5%-10% to get one of those top three draft slots.
    *Teams that qualify for upper-tier playoffs cannot win the WHL lottery, unless they own a 1st round pick from a lottery-qualifying team.
    *Most importantly: The NHL lottery will determine the WHL lottery. I'll let everybody know which NHL team they are matched up with... so they know their WHL draft slot immediately after the NHL lottery.


    If it's still not clear, just ask me a question and I'll do my best to answer.

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    Well played sir... Thanks

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