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    Shawn Matthias gets a $2.3M, one-year deal from #leafs.
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    Those that own him in cap leagues are pissed about this lol


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    That's a lot of money for Matthias, but honestly, a deal like this will also show just how overpaid Tyler Bozak really is as well, especially now that he won't be riding shotgun with a sniper like Kessel anymore.
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    $2.3m for Matthias?
    I guess Bernier is worth about $16m then?

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    Does this spell the end of a center on the leafs roster? Bozak, Kadri, Holland, Matthias, and Arcobello. Bailey and Leo are centers too.
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    I wouldnt be surprised to see Matthias play on the wing a time or two as well.
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    Matthias isn't *that far* off of Beleskey, and TO got him for half the price. Good signing. He can play wing too (might even be better there).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    I wouldnt be surprised to see Matthias play on the wing a time or two as well.
    Yeah Sill does not belong in the NHL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Does this spell the end of a center on the leafs roster? Bozak, Kadri, Holland, Matthias, and Arcobello. Bailey and Leo are centers too.
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    Holland, Nylander, Brown, Bailey, Marner, Gauthier, Kapanen, Leivo and Leipsic are all “push for spots” guys.
    I think the leafs are signing all these one year deals as they don't want to rush their draft picks. After all, they do need to ice a team next year and Nylander, Brown, Marner. Gauthier, Kapanen, Leivo and Leipsic need more time in junior or the AHL.
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    How is this number so bad for Matthias? I was just going to write what UW said but I remember a few people saying Beleskey was a good one and they're not far off at all, actually, Matthias has really good underlying numbers. I think it's a pretty good deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smack View Post
    How is this number so bad for Matthias? I was just going to write what UW said but I remember a few people saying Beleskey was a good one and they're not far off at all, actually, Matthias has really good underlying numbers. I think it's a pretty good deal.
    From my perspective it's a bad fantasy hockey deal. From the Leafs' perspective the actual cap hit doesn't really matter as they won't be a cap team. They just need plugs to buy time and Matthias might turn out to be good enough to keep long-term.


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    Signing guys like Matthias and Arcobello and Panik and Parenteau to reasonable $$$ also allows them to be traded throughout the year or at the deadline for draft picks or prospects. No need for big $$ long term deals right now. Decent signing. Not trying to turn a rock into a diamond these days anyway.

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    Just because Beleskey's number is $3.8m, doesn't make him a good signing either.

    Matthias had 18goals (nice) but only 9assists (awful, in 78gp). And he did it on 13.6% shooting, which is about 4% higher than his career average.
    Beleskey had 22goals (nice) but only 10assists (bad, in 65gp). And he did it on 15.2% shooting, which is about 6% higher than his career average.

    Yes, if one is comparing Matthias ($2.3m) to Beleskey ($3.8m) than the contract number is decent.
    But these are Clarkson-lite type players.
    These guys that get 20G and only 10A... for me, it should be a big red flag.
    I cringe when I see those guys get contracts.
    (effin GMs saying "Well, we need somebody to put the puck in the net...")

    Here's some more past NHL players that had around 2G:1A ratios:
    [and I've hinted a dislike for Brett Connolly for sim reasons]

    2013-2014: Eric Nystrom: 15g, 6a... Bryan Bickell: 11g, 4a.
    2012-2013: Jeff Carter: 26g, 7a... Patrick Berglund 17g, 8a... Michael Grabner: 16g, 5a... Shawn Matthias 14g, 7a... Adam Henrique: 11g, 5a... Gabe Bourque 11g, 5a
    2011-2012: David Clarkson: 30g, 16a... Michael Grabner 20g, 12a... Rene Bourque 18g, 6a... Sean Bergenheim 17g, 6a... Eric Nystrom 16g, 5a
    2010-2011: Ryan Jones 18g, 7a... Nikolay Zherdev: 16g, 6a

    Now a guy like Jeff Carter or Rick Nash is one thing... but most of these other guys... teams haven't gotten their money worth from them.

    Matthias is a big body... but he's not good on the dot... he's not gritty... he doesn't do dirty work.
    I don't get it... I'm not sure what his role in the NHL is.
    And... anybody care to look up his best +/- season?
    I'll give you a hint... there's narry a plus season to be found.
    The guy is a big nothing.
    Big nothings should go on the 4th line... and they should be under $1.5m per.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorro View Post
    Can you say 30th overall this coming season?? Ouch!!
    ESPN had a power ranking out... had Leafs at 29th... still ahead of the Yotes.

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