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    Default My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    For the league in sig, I received this offer....Even if it's 2 for 1, I wouldn't have to drop someone since we can have 5 players in our farm and I'm missing one....

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    Default Re: My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    I'd do that. Sell high on Klingberg
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    Default Re: My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    I like it too and I'm a Klingberg groupy. Trouba loses some value for me in points-only leagues but Mantha more than makes up the difference as a throw-in.
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    Default Re: My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    Agree with Notch 100%.

    In points only, Kling is (and will remain) a much better producer than Trouba... but adding a player like Mantha evens out the difference in my eyes. To me, the decision rests in how much you value Mantha. If he's a guy you really want, I think this deal is a good one. If he's just another "prospect" in your eyes, then I'd hesitate to pull the trigger since Kling>Troubs by a decent amount in points-only. (Full transparency - I don't value Trouba the way many others do in this format)
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    Default Re: My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    I would take this. I like Dallas as a potential landing spot for Mike Green, which would hurt Kling a fair amount. Trouba is a solid player, but his upside is limited to what the Jets decide to do with Byfuglien. That's worth the gamble, simply because he would still be movable if all else fails. Mantha, I'm pretty high on, but I'm still constantly trying to find out more about him. However, since you don't need to rely on any of these players, I'm taking this as a decent sell high.

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    Default Re: My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    The way I see it ...

    Klingberg:
    Immediate upside - (40-55) next year
    Long-term upside - (44-62) 2 years and beyond

    Trouba:
    Immediate upside - (30-42) next year
    Long-term upside - (40-56) 2 years and beyond

    Mantha:
    Immediate upside - (0) he's 1-2 years away unless he is lights-out in camp or takes another step back, then adjust accordingly
    Long-term upside - (55-75) beginning with his 2nd year in the NHL

    So long-term, I think this is a rock solid deal, especially considering you can stash Mantha. Next year though, you'll be second-guessing yourself if Klingberg scores 53 points and Trouba doesn't break 35 while Mantha stews in Grand Rapids.
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    I'd do that in a second. Good deal.
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    Default Re: My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    Quote Originally Posted by kevinsrangers View Post
    I'd do that in a second. Good deal.
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    Jump on this train before it leaves the station!

    Usually in 2 for 1's, you have a player that is less good than the lone one and the other one is the filler or kicker that helps equal it out.

    In this case, both D's are comparable, even though 1 had a hot start and the other struggled at some times last year. Mantha, though, is one hell of a kicker to help swing the deal in your favor.
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    Default Re: My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    I like this deal a lot for you. Accept!

    Maybe Klingberg is better this coming season while the Jets sort out their crowded D, but Trouba has a lot of talent that will rise up eventually. Mantha more than makes up whatever difference there is.

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    Default Re: My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    Done deal guys! Now, I hope Mantha will make the team next season and Klingberg have a 30 points season......

    Thanks for your input!
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    Default Re: My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    I'd do this too, but man, I have to point out that Mantha is crazy-overrated in these forums. Not sure if he's as elite as people view him. He has a long way to go before he's helping poolies and by then there will be a dozen new players in his mold.

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    Default Re: My Klingberg for his Trouba and Mantha?

    Quote Originally Posted by rtstr View Post
    I'd do this too, but man, I have to point out that Mantha is crazy-overrated in these forums. Not sure if he's as elite as people view him. He has a long way to go before he's helping poolies and by then there will be a dozen new players in his mold.
    yup - even Detroit doesn't like him as much anymore.

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