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    Default Trading Ovechkin in a 2 for 1

    I put Ovie on the block 6 weeks ago, recieved a couples offers, didn't accept any.

    I'm in 1st going for the win with 2nd and 3rd pushing hard.
    One gm with good depth made me 3 or 4 different offers. He's the only one having real interest in Ovie.
    This week, I asked him if I could choose any 2 players from his team.
    He came back to me with this:
    2 forwards for my Ovie
    or
    3 forwards + 1 dman for my Ovie + EKane + Shattenkirk.
    Kane hasn't good value in points only and replacing Sahttenkirk with a good D adding another forward might result in a sell high...
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    Jagr
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    Franson
    Faulk
    Ekblad
    Krug

    Do you see a match here?
    Can I get fair value for my Ovechkin?
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    [T] Edmonton
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    [D] Heiskanen, Theodore, Dobson
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    Default Re: Trading Ovechkin in a 2 for 1

    not loving it. I would only get rid of Ovechkin if had a player similar (Getz/Perry/Benn/etc). None of the players listed below are Elite imho. Datsyuk and Spezza injury prone, I'd just keep Ovy
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    Default Re: Trading Ovechkin in a 2 for 1

    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    not loving it. I would only get rid of Ovechkin if had a player similar (Getz/Perry/Benn/etc). None of the players listed below are Elite imho. Datsyuk and Spezza injury prone, I'd just keep Ovy
    With Ovechkin at 27 in 32, I don't see a gm parting with an elite player right now.
    Crosby, Tavares, Seguin, Benn, Kessel, Giroux, Getzlaf, Benn, Kane, Backstrom, even Karlsson...
    You might be right and the best route is to keep Ovechkin...
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    Goalies: win (2), otl/sol (1), shutout (2)
    Team: win (2), otl/sol (1)
    Only 2 FA pickups for the season (remaining: 0)

    [T] Edmonton
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    [D] Heiskanen, Theodore, Dobson
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    Default Re: Trading Ovechkin in a 2 for 1

    Honestly, the fact that his offer is basically "take any 3F and a D" says it all. Im going with snowball here and not make an offer. And since youre first, i wouldnt understand sending packing ovi and shattenkirk.

    Ovi stays in your team, specially in a 6K.

    Ps: what the hell is Pouliot doing on your lineup?

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    Default Re: Trading Ovechkin in a 2 for 1

    PTI, je pense que c'est le meilleur moment de vendre les Sedin! Leur baisse ne saurait que tarder.

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    Default Re: Trading Ovechkin in a 2 for 1

    Quote Originally Posted by gfunkb7 View Post
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    Ps: what the hell is Pouliot doing on your lineup?
    Last round pick.
    We only have 2 FA pick ups for the year.
    Pouliot is my droppable player. But with the wire being so poor right now, no need to make a change. No one would be on my starting 9F - 4D.
    Also, Price is my only G. Need to keep a FA pick up in case of injury.
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    Weekly lineup: 1T, 9F, 4D, 1G
    Points only:
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    Goalies: win (2), otl/sol (1), shutout (2)
    Team: win (2), otl/sol (1)
    Only 2 FA pickups for the season (remaining: 0)

    [T] Edmonton
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    [D] Heiskanen, Theodore, Dobson
    [G]

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfunkb7 View Post
    PTI, je pense que c'est le meilleur moment de vendre les Sedin! Leur baisse ne saurait que tarder.
    Absolutly no market for the twins!
    Plus, they are valuable for me as they put good numbers in my #4 and #5 froward spots.
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    Team: win (2), otl/sol (1)
    Only 2 FA pickups for the season (remaining: 0)

    [T] Edmonton
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    [D] Heiskanen, Theodore, Dobson
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    Default Re: Trading Ovechkin in a 2 for 1

    Another gm is interested in Ovechkin.
    He owns MacKinnon.
    Not enough for my Ovechkin (imo).
    His next best forward is Couture.
    Is MacKinnon + Couture would be to much asking for my Ovechkin?
    Keeper league (12 teams) - keep 6 (+ NHL team is auto keep)
    Weekly lineup: 1T, 9F, 4D, 1G
    Points only:
    Forwards & Dmen: goal (1), assist (1)
    Goalies: win (2), otl/sol (1), shutout (2)
    Team: win (2), otl/sol (1)
    Only 2 FA pickups for the season (remaining: 0)

    [T] Edmonton
    [F] Panarin, Pettersson, Bedard
    [D] Heiskanen, Theodore, Dobson
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    Default Re: Trading Ovechkin in a 2 for 1

    For the first GM, his forwards aren't great to warrant a trade. All 65-75 point forwards at this stage. Moving Shattenkirk would be an even worse idea.

    For the second GM, Mack and Couture is closer to what you want, but still would aim higher than MacK if you're dying to deal Ovechkin.
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    If I were an Ovechkin owner, any trade offer would have to start with a Getzlaf/Perry/Seguin/Benn level player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by potatoetree View Post
    For the first GM, his forwards aren't great to warrant a trade. All 65-75 point forwards at this stage. Moving Shattenkirk would be an even worse idea.

    For the second GM, Mack and Couture is closer to what you want, but still would aim higher than MacK if you're dying to deal Ovechkin.
    Honnestly, the idea here is to maximize the return on my slumping Ovechkin.
    Couture would fill a nice hole in my lineup (Plekanec or Kane or McArtur spot).
    MacKinnon wouldn't help me win this year. But I know his trade value is high.
    I could find another taker for him in exchange for a ppg player.
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    [T] Edmonton
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwojt21 View Post
    If I were an Ovechkin owner, any trade offer would have to start with a Getzlaf/Perry/Seguin/Benn level player.
    I get what you say here. I was thinking the exact same thing... last year.
    I traded Kessel + Neal (PIT) to land Ovechkin last year.
    But now, Ovechkin's value in Points only is under Getzlaf/Seguin/etc range...

    Would you trade your Getzlaf or Seguin right now for Ovechkin?
    Points only.
    Keeper league (12 teams) - keep 6 (+ NHL team is auto keep)
    Weekly lineup: 1T, 9F, 4D, 1G
    Points only:
    Forwards & Dmen: goal (1), assist (1)
    Goalies: win (2), otl/sol (1), shutout (2)
    Team: win (2), otl/sol (1)
    Only 2 FA pickups for the season (remaining: 0)

    [T] Edmonton
    [F] Panarin, Pettersson, Bedard
    [D] Heiskanen, Theodore, Dobson
    [G]

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    Default Re: Trading Ovechkin in a 2 for 1

    Quote Originally Posted by LeTrefle View Post
    I get what you say here. I was thinking the exact same thing... last year.
    I traded Kessel + Neal (PIT) to land Ovechkin last year.
    But now, Ovechkin's value in Points only is under Getzlaf/Seguin/etc range...

    Would you trade your Getzlaf or Seguin right now for Ovechkin?
    Points only.
    You make good points. But then why deal him? You'd be selling low. At worst, I'd see if I could get that level straight up for him--otherwise, a trade does you no favors.
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    yah don't sell Ovi short he should still post 75+, although in a points only Kessel might of been more valuable or dam close to him. I would deal him easily for Seguin or Getzlaf in a points only right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canucks_fan18 View Post
    yah don't sell Ovi short he should still post 75+, although in a points only Kessel might of been more valuable or dam close to him. I would deal him easily for Seguin or Getzlaf in a points only right now
    This should be a thread by its own:
    Who you take one for one for your Ovechkin???
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    Only 2 FA pickups for the season (remaining: 0)

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    [D] Heiskanen, Theodore, Dobson
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