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    Default Crosby for Giroux and Voracek

    18 team H2H league Keep 6 - 2c, 2lw, 2rw, 4d, 2g, 4bn, 2ir

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    I was offered Crosby by the guy in 1st place. I've made some big offers for Crosby in the past so he knows I'm serious - just wondering if maybe I'm too serious.

    Crosby (C) + FA (Drouin,Moulson,Scheifele, that range - could use a roster spot to stream a little more than anything) (120 + 50 = 170 points or so, no?)

    Giroux (C,RW) + Voracek (RW) (Given their hot start, does 90 + 80 = 170 points seem reasonable?)


    E Kane would likely replace Voracek as my 6th and final keeper. Good move to make? Looks like a win in terms of keepers, but will it hurt this year?

    My other keepers as of now are Mack, Hall, Trouba and Schneider...

    Thanks!

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    I'd make it, the 10-20 pt difference between Crosby and the next best player is an asset in itself. Yah, it is 100% going to hurt this year, but keepers wise it's fantastic. Downgrade from Voracek to Kane isn't much (it could actually end up as an upgrade maybe if Kane gets it together).
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    Big price to pay in-season in a keep 6, 18 team league, but long term no doubt that works out for you. Almost every trade for Crosby is worth it long term in a limited keeper.

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    Hit accept and grab Crosby, then pick up Drouin or Schiefle.
    You are getting the best player.
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    I'd do this. You're getting the best player. Voracek is going to slow down. Pick up Drouin.

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    Thanks guys, done deal. He would have dropped Smith-Pelley, so I got him thrown in too for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumname View Post
    18 team H2H league Keep 6 - 2c, 2lw, 2rw, 4d, 2g, 4bn, 2ir

    G,A,PPP,+/-,PIM,HITS,BLOCKS

    I was offered Crosby by the guy in 1st place. I've made some big offers for Crosby in the past so he knows I'm serious - just wondering if maybe I'm too serious.

    Crosby (C) + FA (Drouin,Moulson,Scheifele, that range - could use a roster spot to stream a little more than anything) (120 + 50 = 170 points or so, no?)

    Giroux (C,RW) + Voracek (RW) (Given their hot start, does 90 + 80 = 170 points seem reasonable?)


    E Kane would likely replace Voracek as my 6th and final keeper. Good move to make? Looks like a win in terms of keepers, but will it hurt this year?

    My other keepers as of now are Mack, Hall, Trouba and Schneider...

    Thanks!
    That's a win in whatever term. Crosby + E. Kane > Giroux + Voracek

    Not to mention you have diversified because if for whatever reason Philly as a team goes through an offensive slump, you won't be overly affected.
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    I dunno if I’d do that trade. Your point projections are really high for Crosby. I’d have mine as:
    Crosby – 35G, 65A (100pts), +15, 50PIMs, 35PPP, 50hits, no clue on blocks

    Last time Crosby got over 110pts was in 2006-07, when Thornton got 114, Lecavalier got 108, Heatly got 105, St Louis got 102, and Hossa and Sakic got 100. Those numbers don’t happen anymore.

    FA (Perron is a good base) – 25G, 25A (50Pts), +0, 80PIMs, 15PPP, 80hits, no clue on blocks

    So total with Crosby + FA 150pts, +15, 130PIMs, 50PPP, 130hits

    Giroux – 27G, 60A (87pts), +10, 40PIMs, 35PPP, 90hits
    Voracek – 25G, 50A (75pts), +10, 40PIMs, 25PPP, 20hits
    So total with Giroux+Voracek 162pts, +20, 80PIMs, 60PPP, 110hits

    So the G+V gets more pts, better +/-, less PIMs, more PPP, and less hits. I think after game 15/20 from Philly, Voracek will go back to his 0.85PPG self, but Giroux will continue to go PPG, and we’ll see more goals from him. He’s top 2 in the league for SOG, and only has a 7% shooting%, which is low for him.

    Now if you pick up Drouin, you have the chance to keep him, and have a crazy hyped player that could very well be the next star set-up man to Stamkos, and have the best player in the NHL as Crosby. But Giroux at 26, and Voracek at 25 are still young and arguably still at the start of their prime.

    This is close, but I wouldn’t do the deal. Giroux as a RW,C allows a bit more flexibility for line-up changes. But that is personal choice. Next thing is I’d be curious who your other centers are. If you have 2 stud Centers, you wouldn’t be able to play the 2 studs and Crosby at the same time.
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    Great move. In a limited keeper (and a low keep number as well 6) always trade quantity for quality.
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    Default Re: Crosby for Giroux and Voracek

    Hit accept and grab Crosby, then pick up Drouin.

    eventhough your giving up some PPP still worth it .
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