BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
I was offered my Seguin for his Giroux. FrozenPool player comparison has them both extremely, scary close. I'm leaning towards accepting the trade since Giroux gets a lot more FOW's and PIMS. What is everyone else's opinion?
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P.S. This is a limited keeper league, and the one foward I would keep is John Tavares over both Giroux and Seguin, so this is a one year deal.
12 Team ESPN H2H Keeper: 1F/1D/1G
Skater: G, A, +/-, PTS, PIM, PPG, PPA, SHG, FOW, TOI, SOG, HIT, DEF
Goalie: W, SV, SO, GAA, SV%
Mind Your Manners
Fowards: Tavares, Toews, T. Johnson, Kucherov, Backes, Turris, Huberdeau, Stepan, Kunitz, Filppula, Perron, J. Staal, M. Martin
Defense: Letang, Carlson, Streit, Fowler, Johnson, Zidlicky
Goalies: Bishop, Dubnyk, Pavelec
Daily Start: 9F/5D/1Util/2G
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
seguin is the sexy pick these days, but I think I prefer Giroux over seguin.
let's put it this way. who would you draft first if you could have both? that should be your answer
in a limited keeper it's even less important. just go with the player you prefer more. I think Giroux will outscore seguin this year
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
One year only, I'm going Giroux for the FOW as you mentioned.
Keeper wise I think I would still take Giroux over Seguin.
Tavares is probably the right call over the both of them for you though.
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
Pretty much this.Originally Posted by Kofax
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
It's funny because I had the third overall pick, and with the limited keepers, the draft went 1) Giroux, 2) Getzlaf, 3) Seguin (me). I probably would've taken Giroux anyways but I haven't been dissapointed thus far with Seguin. This is a tough one!!
12 Team ESPN H2H Keeper: 1F/1D/1G
Skater: G, A, +/-, PTS, PIM, PPG, PPA, SHG, FOW, TOI, SOG, HIT, DEF
Goalie: W, SV, SO, GAA, SV%
Mind Your Manners
Fowards: Tavares, Toews, T. Johnson, Kucherov, Backes, Turris, Huberdeau, Stepan, Kunitz, Filppula, Perron, J. Staal, M. Martin
Defense: Letang, Carlson, Streit, Fowler, Johnson, Zidlicky
Goalies: Bishop, Dubnyk, Pavelec
Daily Start: 9F/5D/1Util/2G
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
yeah this is close, but I think I'd edge Giroux by a hair on a one year basis.
12 Team H2H Dynasty
22 Players 3C 3L 3R 1Util 4D 2G 6BN
(G) (A) (+/-) (PIM) (PPP) (FW) (HIT) (W) (GAA) (SV%) (SHO)
C: R Getzlaf, C Giroux, Scheifele, T Bozak
LW: T Vanek, B Ryan, P Marleau, T Hall
RW: C Perry, K Okposo, A Ovechkin, Kucherov
D: D Byfuglien, Z Chara, E Karlsson, R Josi, D Keith, Trouba
G: R Luongo, B Holtby, K Lehtonen
Farm: Lack, Wennberg, Hellbucyk, Ho-Sang, Milano, Burakovsky, Sanheim
2012-2013 and 2013-2014 league champ
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
I prefer Giroux to Seguin. I'd do this deal.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
Unanimous for Giroux. I must say, I am leaning towards accepting this trade. Any other opinions? Are there durability issues with either guy? Line chemistry is great for both: Benn-Seguin/Giroux-Voracek...
12 Team ESPN H2H Keeper: 1F/1D/1G
Skater: G, A, +/-, PTS, PIM, PPG, PPA, SHG, FOW, TOI, SOG, HIT, DEF
Goalie: W, SV, SO, GAA, SV%
Mind Your Manners
Fowards: Tavares, Toews, T. Johnson, Kucherov, Backes, Turris, Huberdeau, Stepan, Kunitz, Filppula, Perron, J. Staal, M. Martin
Defense: Letang, Carlson, Streit, Fowler, Johnson, Zidlicky
Goalies: Bishop, Dubnyk, Pavelec
Daily Start: 9F/5D/1Util/2G
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
G for me. I traded Seguin for him 2 summers ago and despite G's slow start last year, I'm happy with the move. G stirs the cup, I'm not totally sure how Seguin would be affected if he were to lose Benn for any length of time.
10 team H2H !Y League (4 keepers - at least 1 must be a D-man OR Goalie)
Start - 2C, 2L, 2R, 1U, 3D, 2G, 6Bench, 2IR, 2IR+ (Daily) (5 moves per week)
Skaters - G, A, +/-, PPP, PIM, HITS, BS, GWG, SOG
Goalies - Wins, Saves, S%, GAA (Min. 4 starts)
Championships 2007, 2009, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2019*, 2023
C-McDavid, Trocheck, Suzuki
L-B.Tkachuk(C/L), Forsberg, Konecny(L/R)
R-Hyman(L/R), Svechnikov(L/R), P. Kane
D-Dahlin, Josi,
G-DeSmith, Thompson, Hill
IR-Demko
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
another vote for G!
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
Another vote for Giroux here. It is extremely close IMO, but since you won't be keeping either, I'd prefer Giroux over Seguin in a one year league.
12 Team H2H (Daily) - Keep 10 + 5(Farm)
4C/3LW/3RW/4D/3G/4Bench/3IR
G A Pts +/- STP GWG SOG/ W Sv% GAA SHO
Centers:
A. Barkov (IR), C. McDavid, J. Carter, Y. Gourde(LW), N. Paul(LW), C. Stephenson
LWs:
F. Forsberg, J. Guentzel, A. Duclair(RW), E. Haula(C), A. Killorn
RWs:
N. Ehlers(LW), V. Tarasenko, F. Gaudreau(C), V. Podkolzin
D:
T. Chabot, C. Makar, M. Dumba, OEL, N. Schmidt
G:
S. Bobrovky, T. Demko, J. Gibson(IR), A. Stolarz(IR)
Farm:
J. Annunen, A. Kaliyev, A. Lundell, F. Lysell, M. Rossi
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
Some really good advice here... The fact that they are literally so statistically comparable makes this extremely difficult ! I guess no matter what I do I just hope the guy doesn't get hurt
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
I'll actually say Seguin here. I personally feel it's gonna be a big breakout year for him, putting him just under that 'elite' status. Lately the lines have been Benn-Spezza-Seguin but I don't see that lasting, due to either wanting to spread out the talent to more than one line, or Spezza's back catching up to him again. If they do decide to slot Seguin into the C position, that closes that gap on G running away with more FOW than Segs. Although you definitely can't go wrong with either, I'll throw my name in the hat for Seguin.
8 Team Dynasty - G/A/plusminus/PPP/SHP/SOG/FW/HIT/BLK ——
W/SV%/SV/SO
C: A. Matthews, E Pettersson, V Trocheck, A Kopitar, C Mittelstadt,
LW: B Marchand, B Tkachuk, K Kaprizov, J Huberdeau, V Nichushkin, E Kane, J McCann
RW: D Pastrnak, W Nylander, JT Miller, T Meier, Z Hyman, R Hartman
D: Q Hughes, B Burns, D Nurse, M Matheson, K Letang, B McNabb
G: D Kuemper, V Vanecek, J Woll
IR: L Couture, L Schenn
NA: P Kochetkov
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
Giroux for me this season. Long-term I might prefer Seguin but for this season I'll take G who's looking like he's intent on getting back to the 90 point level. He almost made it there last year even after his horrible start, so I'm thinking he's a decent bet to get there this season. The FOW will be nice, as well as the small boost in PIM and hits.
You are definitely right though, this is not an easy choice.
20 Team Dynasty (points per) - G (25, 50 for defense) A (25) PIM (3) PPP (15) SHP (25) OTG (15) GWG (25) HTr (50) SOW (75) HIT (1) BLK (2) W (50) SHO (100) OTL (10) GA (-15) SV (2) Use actual NHL salary
Start 12 F, 6 D, 1G weekly
F: Kucherov, Marchand, Barkov, Gaudreau, Laine, Aho, Dubois, Dadonov, Huberdeau, Trocheck, Bertuzzi, Beauvillier, Khaira, Grigorenko
D: Ekman-Larsson, Yandle, Edler, Pulock, Borowiecki, Weegar, Mike Reilly
G: Andersen, Hart
Farm: Boldy, Beckman, Wise, Mascherin, Kovalenko, Manukyan, Walker, Morozov, Shafigullin, Palmu, Tychonic, Zhuravlyov, Kesselring, Zamula, Lankinen, Sogaard, Ingram, Rybar
Re: BLOCKBUSTER: Seguin for Giroux
I think Seguin and Giroux are among the most comparable elite talents in fantasy leagues, and given the categories it could go either way. But I'd say with those categories, you might as well go with G (ever so slightly) as you know what you are getting.
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