Still not enough. 3 players with potential, but nothing concrete enough. With the Avs slow start it's probably not the time to trade Mac anyway.
For league in sig, I was offered
Evander Kane + Tyler Toffoli
For
My Nathan Mackinnon.
Which I rejected without much thought.
Now the same GM has countered with
Evander Kane + Tyler Toffoli + Jacob Trouba
For
My Nathan Mackinnon.
Any thoughts on this offer? I think it's a bit of a low ball.
Still not enough. 3 players with potential, but nothing concrete enough. With the Avs slow start it's probably not the time to trade Mac anyway.
Yup, still not worth it. He's trying to sell high on Toffoli and buy low on Mac. Mac has a 90+ point upside, whereas Kane in current format is about 50, with the potential to be 65+. Toffoli is probably a ~35-40 point guy, and Trouba is a toss in. Pass.
8 Team Dynasty - G/A/plusminus/PPP/SHP/SOG/FW/HIT/BLK ——
W/SV%/SV/SO
C: A. Matthews, E Pettersson, V Trocheck, A Kopitar, C Mittelstadt,
LW: B Marchand, B Tkachuk, K Kaprizov, J Huberdeau, V Nichushkin, E Kane, J McCann
RW: D Pastrnak, W Nylander, JT Miller, T Meier, Z Hyman, R Hartman
D: Q Hughes, B Burns, D Nurse, M Matheson, K Letang, B McNabb
G: D Kuemper, V Vanecek, J Woll
IR: L Couture, L Schenn
NA: P Kochetkov
I'm not looking to trade Mack in my keeper league. Toffoli was also one of the players I dropped last year.
If you're not actively looking to trade him then definitely stand pat. Always trust your gut.
8 Team Dynasty - G/A/plusminus/PPP/SHP/SOG/FW/HIT/BLK ——
W/SV%/SV/SO
C: A. Matthews, E Pettersson, V Trocheck, A Kopitar, C Mittelstadt,
LW: B Marchand, B Tkachuk, K Kaprizov, J Huberdeau, V Nichushkin, E Kane, J McCann
RW: D Pastrnak, W Nylander, JT Miller, T Meier, Z Hyman, R Hartman
D: Q Hughes, B Burns, D Nurse, M Matheson, K Letang, B McNabb
G: D Kuemper, V Vanecek, J Woll
IR: L Couture, L Schenn
NA: P Kochetkov
Fair enough, I edited my original because I thought I read it wrong and didn't want to come off as a jerk.
8 Team Dynasty - G/A/plusminus/PPP/SHP/SOG/FW/HIT/BLK ——
W/SV%/SV/SO
C: A. Matthews, E Pettersson, V Trocheck, A Kopitar, C Mittelstadt,
LW: B Marchand, B Tkachuk, K Kaprizov, J Huberdeau, V Nichushkin, E Kane, J McCann
RW: D Pastrnak, W Nylander, JT Miller, T Meier, Z Hyman, R Hartman
D: Q Hughes, B Burns, D Nurse, M Matheson, K Letang, B McNabb
G: D Kuemper, V Vanecek, J Woll
IR: L Couture, L Schenn
NA: P Kochetkov
If you're trading MacKinnon (and his potential value) you have to be getting the best player in the deal...ie you need an overpayment (of a top 5-10 player)
Yahoo League #1 - H2H Keep 21
[F] Tkachuk, Barkov, A Svechnikov, Kaprizov, DeBrincat, Scheifele, RNH, Suzuki, Laine, Kakko, Cozens
[D] Makar, Hughes, Nurse, Chabot, Byram
[G] Hart, Shesterkin, Lehner, Helle
Yahoo League #2 - H2H Keep 22
[F] MacKinnon, Guentzel, DeBrincat, EP40, Gaudreau, Barzal, Hughes, Laine, Garland, Norris, Batherson, Farabee
[D] Hedman, MacAvoy, Nurse, Chabot, Pionk, Byram
[G] Nedeljkovic, Smith, Gustavsson, Murray
I just traded mackinnon for shea weber. granted its a 1 year league. the offers you are getting are ridiculous low
Here are some notable players he has on his team:
Giroux
Taylor Hall
Malkin
Shea Weber
Eric Karlsson
Goirdano
Burns
Carey Price
Bobrovsky
Any of those guys make sense?
Giroux, Hall, Karlsson, Weber and Price would all be good hauls for Mack in your league set up.
16 GM Dynasty
H2H Points
Weekly Matchups w/ Starts: 12F/6D/2G
G(3), A(2), +/-(0.1), Hit(0.1), SOG(0.1), BS(0.1), PPP(1), SHP(1)
W(4), L(-2), SO(4), Sv(0.2), GA(-1)
F: A. Svechnikov, R. Thomas, N. Suzuki, Pastrnak, Boldy, J. Robertson, J. Hughes, Frost, Tolvanen, Drouin, Heinen, Gallagher, N. Ritchie, Wood, Poehling, Podkolzin
D: Makar, Fox, Dobson, Byram, Dahlin, Ferraro, Michael Stone
G Sorokin, Hart, Georgiev, DeSmith
Farm: Firkus, Kayumov, Heimosalmi, Brennan, Werner, Kvaca, Parik
From that list in order to move MacK, I'd target Malkin, Giroux, Hall, Karlsson, and/or Price. I agree though that the two original offers were WAY too low. Stand Pat if that's all he is offering
12 Team H2H (Daily) - Keep 10 + 5(Farm)
4C/3LW/3RW/4D/3G/4Bench/3IR
G A Pts +/- STP GWG SOG/ W Sv% GAA SHO
Centers:
A. Barkov (IR), C. McDavid, J. Carter, Y. Gourde(LW), N. Paul(LW), C. Stephenson
LWs:
F. Forsberg, J. Guentzel, A. Duclair(RW), E. Haula(C), A. Killorn
RWs:
N. Ehlers(LW), V. Tarasenko, F. Gaudreau(C), V. Podkolzin
D:
T. Chabot, C. Makar, M. Dumba, OEL, N. Schmidt
G:
S. Bobrovky, T. Demko, J. Gibson(IR), A. Stolarz(IR)
Farm:
J. Annunen, A. Kaliyev, A. Lundell, F. Lysell, M. Rossi
Thanks people. This guy is a real good buddy of mine - and we smack talk each others teams so much, that I am incredibly biased towards my own players.
I thought it was a rough offer but just needed to make sure I'm not just over valuing Mack and undervaluing his players.
You sure came to the right place to get hyped up on Mackinnon. I'll definitely pass on giving up Malkin, Giroux, Hall, Karlsson or Price straight up for Mackinnon. Maybe a 2 for 2 or larger deal exists but I wouldn't be giving up any of those guys alone for the "potential" of Mackinnon.
P.S. Lets not forget that E. Kane, Toffoli and Trouba all possess some pretty high "potential" as well.
10 Team Yahoo H2H Keep 5 G, A, PPP, FOW, SOG, HITS, BLKS, W, GAA, SV, SV%
C,C,LW,LW,RW,RW,F,F,D,D,D,D,G,G,BN,BN,BN,BN,BN,IR+ ,IR+
Keepers:
Makar, J. Hughes, T. Meier, K. Connor, Ovechkin