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    Default Stamkos trade leaves me thin on final (2) keepers...

    So I traded Getz and Duchene for Stammer, and now am the proud owner of OV AND Stamkos! the bad news is I'm left thin for my final (2) keeper spots. Our pool is very PP heavy and +/- is only .5 (full stats below, note we dont count shots/hits/saves)

    Must keeps:
    OV
    Stamkos
    Backstrom
    Benn

    On the fence (must choose 2):
    Wheeler
    Streit
    Crawford

    I dont have a 1st or 2nd round pick but have (2) 3's. my 1st pick is the 31st pick in the draft. The only goalie being kept is Rask and we only start (1) in our linup. There is no chance Wheeler makes it to me in the 3rd and im big on him. Most guys are only keeping (1) D and ive never seen anyone not keep one... I also dont see Streit making it to the 3rd round. Crawford..maybe hes available as he was only the 12th best goalie last year...he doesnt get shutouts and we dont count saves

    I'm leaning towards Wheeler and Streit and rolling the dice on grabbing a goalie with my 3rd round pick. Although haveing a "set it and forget it" goalie in our league is crucial. UGH

    What do you guys think?

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    Default Re: Stamkos trade leaves me thin on final (2) keepers...

    wheeler and Crawford for me.

    should be enough 40 pt potential d's available for you

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    Default Re: Stamkos trade leaves me thin on final (2) keepers...

    Wheeler and Crawford here as well, I realize with only 1 starter G they have less value, but I imagine that even in a redraft most of the top guys are probably gone by round 3.
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    Drop Streit...do NOT let go of Crawford. Given the emphasis on wins Crawford might put up the most goalie points in your format. You'll be able to find a replacement in the draft or someone nearly as good as Streit, whereas it will be a scramble for you to get a goalie as good as Crawford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmorrow136 View Post
    Drop Streit...do NOT let go of Crawford. Given the emphasis on wins Crawford might put up the most goalie points in your format. You'll be able to find a replacement in the draft or someone nearly as good as Streit, whereas it will be a scramble for you to get a goalie as good as Crawford.
    Our pool is wierd...for some reason Crawford doesnt get that many points... here is last seasons goalie standings..in a start 12 he was just average

    Rask, Tuukka - BOS 158.4
    Varlamov, Semyon - COL 157.4
    Bishop, Ben - TB 154.8
    Niemi, Antti - SJ 151
    Fleury, Marc-Andre - PIT 150.8
    Price, Carey - MON 134.8
    Lehtonen, Kari - DAL 133.8
    Hiller, Jonas - CGY 126
    Mason, Steve - PHI 126
    Halak, Jaroslav - NYI 123
    Lundqvist, Henrik - NYR 122
    Bobrovsky, Sergei - CBJ 119.4
    Crawford, Corey - CHI 118
    Quick, Jonathan - LA 111.4
    Smith, Mike - ARZ 98.8

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    Wheeler and Crawford for me.

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    Wheeler and Crawford for me too. You can replace Streit more readily than Crawford and you have a solid G locked up even if he's only in the 10-14 range, better than where Streit will be for D, and if there's a run a goalies in the 1st two rounds, you're protected.
    Then you can focus on D and W in your draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beteau View Post
    Our pool is wierd...for some reason Crawford doesnt get that many points... here is last seasons goalie standings..in a start 12 he was just average

    Rask, Tuukka - BOS 158.4
    Varlamov, Semyon - COL 157.4
    Bishop, Ben - TB 154.8
    Niemi, Antti - SJ 151
    Fleury, Marc-Andre - PIT 150.8
    Price, Carey - MON 134.8
    Lehtonen, Kari - DAL 133.8
    Hiller, Jonas - CGY 126
    Mason, Steve - PHI 126
    Halak, Jaroslav - NYI 123
    Lundqvist, Henrik - NYR 122
    Bobrovsky, Sergei - CBJ 119.4
    Crawford, Corey - CHI 118
    Quick, Jonathan - LA 111.4
    Smith, Mike - ARZ 98.8
    You've possibly forgotten that Crawford was injured for most of December.
    He only started 56 games though he would've started near 64 games if not injured.
    So multiply those numbers by 64/56 and you'll get 135pts... Carey Price territory.

    This one is not close. Streit is not a consideration.
    Wheeler & Crawford and you are not "thin" at all here.
    Those are solid 5th/6th keepers.

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    Another Wheeler and Crawford vote. But make sure you handcuff Raanta!
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    Quote Originally Posted by beteau View Post
    Our pool is wierd...for some reason Crawford doesnt get that many points... here is last seasons goalie standings..in a start 12 he was just average

    Rask, Tuukka - BOS 158.4
    Varlamov, Semyon - COL 157.4
    Bishop, Ben - TB 154.8
    Niemi, Antti - SJ 151
    Fleury, Marc-Andre - PIT 150.8
    Price, Carey - MON 134.8
    Lehtonen, Kari - DAL 133.8
    Hiller, Jonas - CGY 126
    Mason, Steve - PHI 126
    Halak, Jaroslav - NYI 123
    Lundqvist, Henrik - NYR 122
    Bobrovsky, Sergei - CBJ 119.4
    Crawford, Corey - CHI 118
    Quick, Jonathan - LA 111.4
    Smith, Mike - ARZ 98.8
    This is probably because he missed a few games due to injury and only put up 2 shutouts. I still would peg him as one of the top 3 goalies in W this season, and maybe he can add a few more shutouts, so I'd still want him before most others in this format. I'd have him 4th or 5th behind guys like Rask, Lundy, Price and maybe Quick. Just my take.

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    Thanks all, you've made my decision a lot easier now. Although it is tough not keeping a D in a start (5)D league i think it must be done here...

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    Yeah 100% Wheeler and Crawford. You can easily replace Steit, even in a keep 5. 40 point D-Men aren't that hard to find.
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    Wheeler and Crawford, I'm so unique!

    Crow will have elite W-L numbers. If he can manage a few extra shutouts he'll become a top option in your league in a hurry. SO's have never been his strong point so don't bank on it, but they can be so random, who knows?

    Just based on W-L alone though, he's worth keeping. Then you're not having to hope a goalie makes it to you through the first 30 picks, that's way too stressful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Tony DeNiro View Post
    Wheeler and Crawford, I'm so unique!

    Crow will have elite W-L numbers. If he can manage a few extra shutouts he'll become a top option in your league in a hurry. SO's have never been his strong point so don't bank on it, but they can be so random, who knows?

    Just based on W-L alone though, he's worth keeping. Then you're not having to hope a goalie makes it to you through the first 30 picks, that's way too stressful.
    Agreed - i locked them in and going for a 3 peat!

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