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    Default Keep 2 : Mantha, Toffoli, Jenner

    I have a few young forwards and am having a hard time firing one of them.

    20 Team league, no cap / salary, G,A,PPP,+/-,Hits,BS

    While I should be in contention this year, I dont mind continuing to let my young roster develop and would be willing to have Mantha take up a slot if the payoff down the road is worth it.

    Which 2 would you suggest keeping?

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    I think I would keep Jenner and Toffoli.

    Jenner's a hit machine and will still offer some decent scoring. He is the easy keep for me.

    I am just not sure between Toffoli and Mantha but my gut tells me that Toffoli is the right guy.
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    Default Re: Keep 2 : Mantha, Toffoli, Jenner

    I like Toffoli, who should get top six minutes this year in LA, and Mantha, who is a longer term project, will eventually be everything that people expect of him.

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    D: Bouchard, McAvoy, Morrissey, Heiskanen
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    Default Re: Keep 2 : Mantha, Toffoli, Jenner

    and I'll say Mantha and Jenner just to round it out. I believe in Toffoli but I don't believe in the system. Given their track record I can't see the system changed anytime soon. The hype on Mantha is hug and should you need to I think he would bring back the biggest return
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    Well at least I know I'm not crazy for struggling to decide on one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niagaramac View Post
    Well at least I know I'm not crazy for struggling to decide on one.
    Ain't that the truth.

    If it helps, I had Jenner third on the list because I just don't seem him ever consistently getting top 6 minutes in Columbus. Sure, as the Axeman said, he will help in the Hits category, but in my limited experience with league's involving a "hits" category, people don't pick the guy who is going to get more hits (at what?? 0.25pts per?) over the guy who will score more points (at a minimum of 1pt per goal or assist...sometimes more for goals). Just the way I think.

    And you did say you were willing to wait on Mantha.

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    D: Bouchard, McAvoy, Morrissey, Heiskanen
    G: Vasilevskiy



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bottlenecker View Post
    Ain't that the truth.

    If it helps, I had Jenner third on the list because I just don't seem him ever consistently getting top 6 minutes in Columbus. Sure, as the Axeman said, he will help in the Hits category, but in my limited experience with league's involving a "hits" category, people don't pick the guy who is going to get more hits (at what?? 0.25pts per?) over the guy who will score more points (at a minimum of 1pt per goal or assist...sometimes more for goals). Just the way I think.

    And you did say you were willing to wait on Mantha.
    I think he can and does get top 6 minutes on the wing. I also think he turns out to be a nice 45-55pt type guy with good peripherals. As I say, he was my easy pick from those three. It was harder between Mantha and Toffoli.

    Time will tell.
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    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bottlenecker View Post
    more hits (at what?? 0.25pts per?)
    Not sure what this means. Weighted? If so, our cats are not weighted. H2H league not roto.

    I tend to favor offensive guys as a goal or an assist in our league also results in a + or a PPP. So they end up functionally being weighted double.

    However, if I can get a guy that excels in another category (hits) but still give good all around stats, then I consider how much of an impact they can make in their specialty and if they will hurt me in the others. Thought about Komarov as over 82 games I think he will lead the league in hits. But I also think he will be a black whole for most other cats.

    Yes, I am willing to wait on Mantha, even in DET which drives my crazy (.e.g Nyqvist)

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    Default Re: Keep 2 : Mantha, Toffoli, Jenner

    I just meant that normally fantasy leagues count a hit as .25. Jenner would have to hit four guys to earn the same number of points Mantha does by scoring one goal ( which in some leagues may even be worth two fantasy points).

    Still too early here on the East Coast to be making sense...LOL!

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    Top 9F, 4D & 1G . Keep 15, Max 23
    F: J. Robertson, J. Hughes, Tavares, Lafreniere, Cozens, Newhook, Teravainen, Domi, R. Strome, Laine, Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti
    D: Bouchard, McAvoy, Morrissey, Heiskanen
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    Default Re: Keep 2 : Mantha, Toffoli, Jenner

    Toffoli and Mantha

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    Default Re: Keep 2 : Mantha, Toffoli, Jenner

    Toffoli and Mantha for me. I don't see Jenner skating top 6 unless there are injuries. The Jackets have all kinds of grit on their top two lines, they need scorers on those lines not more grit. Atkinson may have a big year! Mantha is a year away but he has an excellent chance of sliding into the top 6 as the Wings youth movement continues to build momentum.
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    Default Re: Keep 2 : Mantha, Toffoli, Jenner

    I like Jenner here who will see plenty of ice time and will contribute heavily with Hits. Toffoli is probably more gifted but with LA's logg jam of Fowards, he may not see excessive amount of ice time. Lots of hype last year on Toffoli but at one point saw not even 10mins per game, hopefully that changes.
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