Reply With QuoteHall was over a point per game avg last year and he's only going to get better. Not really sure what else your other league GM would be looking for beyond that. Maybe their all spooked by his past injury history.
How do you rank LWs?
So I was in a mock draft last night and grabbed Hall with my second pick. This generated a conversation. People in this draft believed Hall is not even among the top-3 LW to own, putting him behind guys like Kunitz (who was apparenlty top-10 overall in one guy's league), Benn, Pacioretty etc.
Am I nuts thinking Hall #1 or #2 in the league at that position? I mean, Benn I could see an argument. Pacioretty if you heavily wieght goals I suppose. But how many LWs are out there that score more than a ppg? I count none, outside Hall in the last 2 seasons. How do you rank the LWs? What kind of format is it where Kunitz is top-10 despite putting up only 68 points?
10-team H2H points keeper league, keep 4
G: 2, A: 2, SOG: 0.15, Hit: 0.15, Block: 0.15, W: 3.5, Sv: 0.025, SO: 6
7 F, 3 D, 1 G
2022-2023 Roster:
F: Connor McDavid, Steven Stamkos, Artemi Panarin, Jack Hughes, Mark Stone, Josh Norris, Tyler Bertuzzi, PL Dubois, Sam Bennett, Tom Wilson (IR)
D: Kris Letang, Drew Doughty, Brent Burns, Shayne Gostisbehere
G: Ilya Sorokin, Thatcher Demko
Re: How do you rank LWs?
Hall was over a point per game avg last year and he's only going to get better. Not really sure what else your other league GM would be looking for beyond that. Maybe their all spooked by his past injury history.
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+/-,G,A,GWG,PTS,STP,PIM,SOG,HT,BS,GAA,SO,SV,W
Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies
Forwards: Domi, K.Connor, Kessel, Parise, Monahan, Point, Rantanen, Kucherov, Panarin , M.Martin, Reaves, Marner
Defense: Butcher, K.Russell, Pelech, Girard, Klingberg, Larsson
Goalie: Rask, Hellebuyck
Reserves: D.Strome, Jo.Benn, Polak, C.Crawford , M.Jones, A.Dell, Koskinen
Prospects: Soderstrom, Sorokin, J.Dahlen, Kaprizov, Yamamoto, Makar, Starrett , F.Sandstrom, Timmins, T.Terry
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Re: How do you rank LWs?
I think the people in that mock draft are idiots and you should ignore anything they say.
Re: How do you rank LWs?
Hall is by far the best LW in the league for points.
22 years old only and already 2 seasons over PPG.
Jamie Benn is a solid 2nd but he wont reach 90 pts soon like Hall will do.
6 teams dynasty pool,points only,no pos. for F, Keep All, 12F, 6D, 2G count.....backup=6F, 4D, 2G, 4 roster moves( 2 at 30th game and 2 at NHL deadline)
F- , P. Kane,Eichel, DeBrincat, Kopitar, Wheeler, Kuznetsov, Point, Huberdeau, Verhaghe, Bergeron,Keller, Batherson, Schmaltz, W.Nylander, Buchnevich,Rantanen
D- Makar, Gostisbehere, Carlson, Burns, Barrie, M. Rielly, Hronek, DeAngelo, KA Miller
G- Vasilevskyi, Sorokin, Campbell, Markstrom
Farm: Lundell, Guenther, Holtz, Glass, E. Svechnikov, Denisenko, Newhook, Heponiemi, Lauko,Neighbours, Bokk N. Foote, Borgstrom, Dahlen, Bokk, S. Poulin, Zelleweger, Liljegren, Heinola, Perunovich, S. Knight.
Re: How do you rank LWs?
Points Only: Hall & Benn are alone in the top tier of LW.
Multi-Cat: Benn alone in Tier I. Then Tier II: Hall/Kunitz/Sharp/Patches. If eligible Duchene is there too.
Kunitz finished last season as the #11 forward in standard Yahoo! multi-cat, which evenly weights 6 categories: G,A,+/-,PPP,PIM,SOG.
Kunitz is a beast in PIM and +/-. A category is a category... and people often forget this with those categories.
Re: How do you rank LWs?
I agree with this statement right here.Originally Posted by jcairns
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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Re: How do you rank LWs?
With your stats Hall should be close to #1 for LWs so he's a good second round pick for sure.
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G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO
C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
D-Burns,Carlson,Gudas,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
BN-Zacha
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Beaucage,Berggren,Bokk,Brisson,Chytil,Dugan,Foerst er,Foote,Frost,Grewe,K.Johnson,Lindblom,Mikheyev,N ybeck,Peterka,Pospisil,Protas,Ranta,Raty,Stankoven ,Suzuki,Tuomaala
Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Poirier,Sanderson,Seid er,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
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Re: How do you rank LWs?
Guilty of this myself with +/-. Too unpredictable for me, I like to see if I can nail down the other categories and sort of resign myself to losing on +/-. TBH it hasn't done me wrong in my multi-cat pool, but maybe I'm just lucky.
With Kunitz specifically, I just sort of feel like he's gonna be 35 and he's due to take a step back. And because he's so reliant on Crosby, there's a double-whammy of injury risk--Kunitz is not going to generate top-LW-great numbers without Crosby.
Thanks for the input on multi-cat, didn't realize he was so high last year.
10-team H2H points keeper league, keep 4
G: 2, A: 2, SOG: 0.15, Hit: 0.15, Block: 0.15, W: 3.5, Sv: 0.025, SO: 6
7 F, 3 D, 1 G
2022-2023 Roster:
F: Connor McDavid, Steven Stamkos, Artemi Panarin, Jack Hughes, Mark Stone, Josh Norris, Tyler Bertuzzi, PL Dubois, Sam Bennett, Tom Wilson (IR)
D: Kris Letang, Drew Doughty, Brent Burns, Shayne Gostisbehere
G: Ilya Sorokin, Thatcher Demko
Re: How do you rank LWs?
Agree. Look at the small categories that make up the big picture or risk missing out on the big prize!
Re: How do you rank LWs?
Agree regarding Hall and Benn leading the way respectively for LW. But if Ovie shifts back over...does he reclaim LW supremacy?
Re: How do you rank LWs?
I'd have to assume so. Ovi is usually pretty great right across the board, and has the highest upside of all of them for goals and assists--in the right circumstances there's no reason he couldn't chase 100 points again. He'd win G, PPP, and SOG hands-down, while challenging the other LWs on PIM & A, too. Everyone focuses on his terrible +/- from last year and forgets he's been a +45 once, too. That was a product of a year of failed strategy on Oates' part affecting the entire team--even Backstrom was a -20 last year, why are all the team's best players so deep in a +/- hole all of a sudden? I figure Ovi easily has a a shot at a positive +/-. Probably lower than Benn's but it depends on how Trotz works the team.
10-team H2H points keeper league, keep 4
G: 2, A: 2, SOG: 0.15, Hit: 0.15, Block: 0.15, W: 3.5, Sv: 0.025, SO: 6
7 F, 3 D, 1 G
2022-2023 Roster:
F: Connor McDavid, Steven Stamkos, Artemi Panarin, Jack Hughes, Mark Stone, Josh Norris, Tyler Bertuzzi, PL Dubois, Sam Bennett, Tom Wilson (IR)
D: Kris Letang, Drew Doughty, Brent Burns, Shayne Gostisbehere
G: Ilya Sorokin, Thatcher Demko
Re: How do you rank LWs?
Where would you guys throw Parise?
Benn
Hall
Kunitz/Pavelski
Patches/Duchene
Parise?
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