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    I posted a similar question a few days ago, as I am still trying to figure out options for my last Keeper spot.

    H2H League, G/A/+-/PPP/GWG.

    What do you guys think of these 2, for a keeper league. Is there much difference? In my league we keep players at the round they were drafted in. Wheeler would be a 7th round Keeper whereas Voracek would be a 17th rounder. In this case, is it worth trying to swap out Wheeler for Voracek and gain the round advantage?
    10-Team Keeper League, H2H - (keepers are in brackets, along with the round they are 'kept' in)
    G/A/+-/PPP/GWG, W/SV%/GAA/SO

    3C- Matthews (1)
    3LW -
    3RW - Draisatl (18), Rantanen (18)
    3D -
    2G - Hart (18), Dubnyk (18)
    5Bn -

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    Default Re: Wheeler v. Voracek

    I will go whit Voracek no hits or shot categories where Wheeler is a beast + Voracek play whit a elite player in Giroux the make a easy desicion. You will keep your 7th pick instead of the 17th VORACEK all the way...
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    Default Re: Wheeler v. Voracek

    Easy decision to me - no way one guy is 10 rounds better than the other right? Keep your 7th round pick

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    Default Re: Wheeler v. Voracek

    yeah in this set up I would keep the 7th round pick and keep Voracek on your team.... I think he will put up more points this season as well

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    Usually i would lean to Wheeler here but not for 10 rounds.. Keep Voracek.
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    Default Re: Wheeler v. Voracek

    Wheeler is the play in a multi-cat but in your set-up its Voracek. However with the pick discrepancy, Voracek is the play in both formats.

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    Default Re: Wheeler v. Voracek

    I agree with the others. Keep Voracek and 7th round pick.

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    Default Re: Wheeler v. Voracek

    No debate on the consensus. One for one there could be a debate but in this situation Voracek is the winner hands down.
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    Default Re: Wheeler v. Voracek

    even if they were both in the same round i'd go with voracek. gonna ride shotgun with giroux, and won't have a bad +- like wheeler will playing in winnipeg. expect a huge breakout season from voracek.
    just for the fun of it, and to really understand what voracek gave us last year, try pro-rating his stats last year without the first 15 games, when everyone on the flyers, especially giroux, started out absolutely terribly. he averages out to 71 points in an 82 game season, and as he starts to hit his prime, he'll only get better. expect 70+ points easily.
    (just to explain, he had 4 points in his first 15 games, and over the whole season he had 62 points in 82 games. so taking out those 15 games, he had 58 points in 67 games, which over 82 games is 71 points.)

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    Keep Voracek. At 17th round, that is an absolute steal.

    As a side, I have a similar dilemna with keeping Wheeler as my 5th or Vanek as my 6th. In this case, I will be keeping Wheeler. If it was Weeler in 5th or Vanek in 17th, I would keep Vanek. Easy decision for you.
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    Default Re: Wheeler v. Voracek

    Quote Originally Posted by keytolife View Post
    Usually i would lean to Wheeler here but not for 10 rounds.. Keep Voracek.

    This! Reading your title, I was ready to say Wheeler, then after reading your OP, it was an easy choice to change my mind.
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    Default Re: Wheeler v. Voracek

    Thanks everyone, because of the way the league is structured I like to double check what the players new value is. I agree with you all!
    10-Team Keeper League, H2H - (keepers are in brackets, along with the round they are 'kept' in)
    G/A/+-/PPP/GWG, W/SV%/GAA/SO

    3C- Matthews (1)
    3LW -
    3RW - Draisatl (18), Rantanen (18)
    3D -
    2G - Hart (18), Dubnyk (18)
    5Bn -

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    Default Re: Wheeler v. Voracek

    Yep I agree with everyone above. You have to keep Voracek given the 17th rounder vs Wheeler as a 7th rounder.

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    That’s an odd keeper setup. That would mean MacKinnon would be like a 10th rounder for his career if he was drafted in the 10th round last yr? Or a Sedin would be a 2nd rounder, then dropped, then drafted 10th round and now he’s a 10th round keeper?
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    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Yea that's the setup. I drafted Mackinnon in the 9th round last year and will keep him there until I'm 90. It's an interesting way to even out player values, putting emphasis on skill, age, and draft position.
    10-Team Keeper League, H2H - (keepers are in brackets, along with the round they are 'kept' in)
    G/A/+-/PPP/GWG, W/SV%/GAA/SO

    3C- Matthews (1)
    3LW -
    3RW - Draisatl (18), Rantanen (18)
    3D -
    2G - Hart (18), Dubnyk (18)
    5Bn -

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