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    12 Team, 24 Roster, Keep 12, Total Points, Multi-cat (G/A/PPP/SHP/SOG/+/-/PIM/HITS/GWG/SHOG).

    I own C.Price (Keeper League #1 in signature), but the E.Karlsson owner asked me for the price on Price...should I offer C.Price for E.Karlsson straight up? For comparison based on our leagues Fantasy Points, here is how they look to their counterparts:

    Top 15 Goalies last season:
    Varlamov, Semyon - COL 210.7
    Rask, Tuukka - BOS 196.1
    Price, Carey - MON 195.4
    Bishop, Ben - TB 194
    Lehtonen, Kari - DAL 192
    Fleury, Marc-Andre - PIT 185.4
    Lundqvist, Henrik - NYR 184.6
    Niemi, Antti - SJ 180.1
    Smith, Mike - PHO 177.7
    Bobrovsky, Sergei - CBJ 176.3
    Mason, Steve - PHI 174.1
    Bernier, Jonathan - TOR 158.9
    Crawford, Corey - CHI 157.5
    Miller, Ryan - VAN 155.1
    Halak, Jaroslav - NYI 153.5

    Top 15 Defencemen last season:
    Karlsson, Erik - OTT 151.1
    Weber, Shea - NAS 143.9
    Byfuglien, Dustin - WPG 136.5
    Keith, Duncan - CHI 132.1
    Subban, P.K. - MON 129.5
    Niskanen, Matt - WAS 124.8
    Chara, Zdeno - BOS 121.6
    Hedman, Victor - TB 120.5
    Wisniewski, James - CBJ 120.1
    Shattenkirk, Kevin - STL 119.9
    Giordano, Mark - CGY 119.9
    Burns, Brent - SJ 119.8
    Pietrangelo, Alex - STL 119.4
    Yandle, Keith - PHO 117.6
    Ekman-Larsson, Oliver - PHO 116.8


    The #3 Goalie for the #1 Defencemen? Yes, right?!...Help!!

    THANK YOU!!!


    Other notes:
    • I also own J.Quick
    • 5x Defencemen + 2x Goalies on our daily active roster

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    12 GM Total Points (Multi-Cat) Keep 10 + 2 Farm 12 GM H2H (Multicat) Keep 12 + 10 Farm
    C: RNH
    LW: Landeskog Galchenyuk Ovechkin
    RW: Tarasenko
    F: Pacioretty Lucic
    D: Karlsson OEL Green
    G: Quick Price
    F: Draisaitl Vatanen
    C: Backstrom Stamkos Kopitar
    LW: Pacioretty Schwartz Palat
    RW: Kucherov Hornqvist Nash
    D: Klingberg Faulk J.Johnson Streit
    G: Bernier Dubnyk Hutchinson
    B: Drouin B.Ritchie Jaskins Krejci
    Farm: Kuznetsov Domi Jones Ho-Sang Deangelo Hellebyuck

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    Default Re: C.Price for E.Karlsson

    Do you have someone to replace Price as your second goalie? If not, who will be available to replace him?

    Assuming it's the first league in your sig, you already have AP and OEL on defence so I'd be a little skeptical about weakening your net even if it is Karlsson.
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    Default Re: C.Price for E.Karlsson

    Be interested to see the full cats for your league before I commented - might be pretty tough to cover the gap even by getting Karlsson, if you let Price go.

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    Seems like a goalie friendly league. I’d stick with Price, not saying it’s an unfair trade, I’d just rather go in and get the goalie pts. Now in mid/end of October try and trade Quick for Karlsson. Karlsson typically starts “slow” and with the questions swirling the team and offense it might cause enough questioning for the GM owner.
    12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Karlsson had 8 points in his first 10 games last season and 17 in his first 15, I am not sure I would call that a slow start exactly

    as for the trading Price for Karlsson, I would have to keep Price here
     
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    G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, GWG
    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 3 F, 6 D, 2 G, 5 Bench
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    I guess the question is, would you say you really need Karlsson or would you say you really need Price to be successful in this league? Any league that starts 2 goalies, having depth is so important, especially if injuries come through.

    I am keeping Price here, even if you own Quick.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

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    im also keeping price here. unless you have plans of another goalie coming in through trade or pickup. is there decent options on the ww?
    10 team Full Keeper Roto League
    4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.

    C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
    LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
    RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
    D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
    G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov

    under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton

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    Default Re: C.Price for E.Karlsson

    The thing about goalies is that their value can vary quite a bit from year to year (even with the good ones), skater values tend to be more stable (barring injuries).
    In general though, your league looks to be goalie-heavy so you probably need to ask for more than just Karlsson for Price.
    14 team H2H fantasy points league
    G=3 A=2 PPP=1.5 PIM/Hits/BS=0.25
    W=4 SO=6 GA=-1.25 SV=0.15

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    Default Re: C.Price for E.Karlsson

    Wow, thanks everyone. Was thinking more people would be for E.Karlsson. It is for my 1st team in signature, and I don't have another goalie that's worth protecting so I would be drafting one. Last year 2 of the top 4 goalies were drafted: B.Bishop & S.Varlamov, so there is hope in finding a replacement.

    Cats are as follows:
    G=1 A=1 PPP=1 SHP=1 SOG=0.1 PIM=0.1 HITS=0.1 BLK=0.1 GWG=1 ShoG=0.5 ShoGWG=0.5
    W=3 OTL=1 SO=3 SV=0.1 GA=-0.50 G=10 A=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyWill09 View Post
    Wow, thanks everyone. Was thinking more people would be for E.Karlsson. It is for my 1st team in signature, and I don't have another goalie that's worth protecting so I would be drafting one. Last year 2 of the top 4 goalies were drafted: B.Bishop & S.Varlamov, so there is hope in finding a replacement.

    Cats are as follows:
    G=1 A=1 PPP=1 SHP=1 SOG=0.1 PIM=0.1 HITS=0.1 BLK=0.1 GWG=1 ShoG=0.5 ShoGWG=0.5
    W=3 OTL=1 SO=3 SV=0.1 GA=-0.50 G=10 A=1
    Ya but who really can say they expected either of those two goalies to put up the type of numbers they did?
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

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    Love Karlsson, as Dobber says he is "The Crosby of Defenseman", but I think you have to stick with Price here. Unless you can swing a deal for another Goalie.
    12 Team H2H (Daily) - Keep 10 + 5(Farm)
    4C/3LW/3RW/4D/3G/4Bench/3IR
    G A Pts +/- STP GWG SOG/ W Sv% GAA SHO
    Centers:
    A. Barkov (IR), C. McDavid, J. Carter, Y. Gourde(LW), N. Paul(LW), C. Stephenson
    LWs:
    F. Forsberg, J. Guentzel, A. Duclair(RW), E. Haula(C), A. Killorn
    RWs:
    N. Ehlers(LW), V. Tarasenko, F. Gaudreau(C), V. Podkolzin
    D:
    T. Chabot, C. Makar, M. Dumba, OEL, N. Schmidt
    G:
    S. Bobrovky, T. Demko, J. Gibson(IR), A. Stolarz(IR)
    Farm:
    J. Annunen, A. Kaliyev, A. Lundell, F. Lysell, M. Rossi

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