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    I'm currently trying to acquire the 2nd overall entry pick in our league. The gm likes couture. I'm hesitant to give up a proven scorer for potential. But couture is 6,000,000 cap hit tho. I am in a position to compete for next couple of years(2nd in season last year and lost in final). But I do need to improve my goaltending. So I have offered couture, luongo, for his 2nd overall pick, Bergeron, and quick. Is this a good deal? Or am I asking to much for couture? I may lose a few points by going couture to Bergeron, but I upgrade luongo to quick. Plus I'd have the 2nd overall pick to go with the 3rd overall that I acquired during season. So I'd be drafting 2 of Bennett, draisatl, ekblad or reinhart. Thoughts anyone? Team and league stats in sig
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    3c 3lw 3rw 4d 2util 1goal
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    GOALIES Gibson, Shesterkin, Sorokin
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    Bergeron isn't quite as amazing in your league as he is in ones that count FOW, but I still like this deal for you.

    To be able to upgrade from Luongo to Quick, AND acquire the second overall pick?

    And all it costs you is a (minor IMO) downgrade from Couture to Bergeron???

    I have to assume you get refused, but if not, take this deal and run!
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    He rejected but is saying Bergeron and 2nd just for couture. Opinion?
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    $89 mill salary cap, cap hits
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    max 23 plyr rstr, 15 minors

    CENTERS Kuznetsov, Necas, Petterson, Hughes, D.Strome, Seguin, Hayes, Scheifele
    LEFTWING Gaudreau, Mantha, Forsberg, Keller
    RIGHTWING Kakko , Debrincat, Thomas, Konecny
    D-MEN Girard, Provorov, McCavoy, Dobson, Makar
    GOALIES Gibson, Shesterkin, Sorokin
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    Don't like it. Bergeron is bigger cap hit without as many points. Easy no for me.
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    Couture is bigger cap hit actually. By 1mill per season
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    $89 mill salary cap, cap hits
    minors- players under 60 gms, goalies under 30 gms
    3c 3lw 3rw 4d 2util 1goal
    max 23 plyr rstr, 15 minors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noddes55 View Post
    Couture is bigger cap hit actually. By 1mill per season
    That was last year's salary. Bergeron is 6.5.

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    W:3 SV:0.2 GA:-1 SO:3

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    Oh no shit eh. Don't really pay attention to players that are not mine.
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    $89 mill salary cap, cap hits
    minors- players under 60 gms, goalies under 30 gms
    3c 3lw 3rw 4d 2util 1goal
    max 23 plyr rstr, 15 minors

    CENTERS Kuznetsov, Necas, Petterson, Hughes, D.Strome, Seguin, Hayes, Scheifele
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    GOALIES Gibson, Shesterkin, Sorokin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noddes55 View Post
    He rejected but is saying Bergeron and 2nd just for couture. Opinion?
    Well, at least you aren't robbing him blind now...

    This offer is fairly close - I don't know how much worse Bergeron is in your format (I dont play much H2H - more a Total Points guy), but in the leagues I play in they are close to a wash - I still like the deal for you, but as I said - this isn't a format I play very often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noddes55 View Post
    He rejected but is saying Bergeron and 2nd just for couture. Opinion?
    I think its a fair offer. Acquiring the 2nd overall is going to cost you something you don't want to move one way or another. At least you get back a decent forward to soften the blow.
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    Couture will give you more point now (and your in a win now move), so I wouldn't do this move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarmotKing View Post
    Couture will give you more point now (and your in a win now move), so I wouldn't do this move.
    If you're going for the win right now, why don't you package the 3rd overall with Couture for an upgrade at Center?
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    I've actually just started to think about that, upgrading couture
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    $89 mill salary cap, cap hits
    minors- players under 60 gms, goalies under 30 gms
    3c 3lw 3rw 4d 2util 1goal
    max 23 plyr rstr, 15 minors

    CENTERS Kuznetsov, Necas, Petterson, Hughes, D.Strome, Seguin, Hayes, Scheifele
    LEFTWING Gaudreau, Mantha, Forsberg, Keller
    RIGHTWING Kakko , Debrincat, Thomas, Konecny
    D-MEN Girard, Provorov, McCavoy, Dobson, Makar
    GOALIES Gibson, Shesterkin, Sorokin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noddes55 View Post
    I've actually just started to think about that, upgrading couture
    Seems more logical in your situation, as opposed to stockpiling early draft picks.
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    I just read an article that says Couture is healing rather slowly from his wrist injury, and next year I don't see the Sharks improving on their playoff run. The East though is a little bit more predictable and Boston should have an easier time going deep. This move is also about diversifying your playoff picture and adding a great piece of BOS is never a bad thing. I think the based on the injury report the points maybe closer next year then what they would normally be, and adding 2 of the top 3 NHL draft picks is never a bad thing, you could probably turn one of those assets into a bigger piece in a future deal, I'd take the deal but it is very close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie Dunn View Post
    I just read an article that says Couture is healing rather slowly from his wrist injury, and next year I don't see the Sharks improving on their playoff run. The East though is a little bit more predictable and Boston should have an easier time going deep. This move is also about diversifying your playoff picture and adding a great piece of BOS is never a bad thing. I think the based on the injury report the points maybe closer next year then what they would normally be, and adding 2 of the top 3 NHL draft picks is never a bad thing, you could probably turn one of those assets into a bigger piece in a future deal, I'd take the deal but it is very close.
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