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    Stroman has had shoulder inflammation in his throwing arm, an issue he's dealt with since January and apparently he never told the Jays the issue until recently.
    https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/14...r-inflammation
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    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Stroman has had shoulder inflammation in his throwing arm, an issue he's dealt with since January and apparently he never told the Jays the issue until recently.
    https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/14...r-inflammation
    Dealing with it since January means he was hiding it from arbitration. Greasy move that definitely sounds like an agent's idea. I get trying to protect your earning potential, but this is the kind of move that alienates the front office. Sure, arbitration sucked for you Stoman. It's part of your job though, suck it up and go out and actually earn a big deal, cause you haven't yet, and an independent arbitrator agrees.
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    W, L, GA, SHO, SV (Goal)
    Start 12 F 6 D 2 G
    11 Player Bench (Max 2 Bench G)
    15 Player Farm Team

    F: Kucherov, Teravainen, Galchenyuk, Johansen, W Nylander, W Karlsson, Gourde, Vrana, Athanasiou, Vatrano, Buchnevich, Haula, Stastny, Puljujarvi, Eberle, Little, Kovalchuk, Kravtsov, Terry, Bertuzzi, Bratt, Kunin, Hintz, Heinen, Kahun, Sikura, Chytil, Iafallo
    D: E Karlsson, Montour, Gardiner, Girard, Faulk, Martinez, Fox, Cernak, Weegar, Pionk, Pilut, Bayreuther
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolo View Post
    Dealing with it since January means he was hiding it from arbitration. Greasy move that definitely sounds like an agent's idea. I get trying to protect your earning potential, but this is the kind of move that alienates the front office. Sure, arbitration sucked for you Stoman. It's part of your job though, suck it up and go out and actually earn a big deal, cause you haven't yet, and an independent arbitrator agrees.
    Because it's a 1yr deal, you'd think that part of the arbitration would be a full physical of the player just in case they are hiding stuff. But clearly it isn't.

    You never know if this is going to be a 1 time thing, or a year long problem.
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    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Because it's a 1yr deal, you'd think that part of the arbitration would be a full physical of the player just in case they are hiding stuff. But clearly it isn't.

    You never know if this is going to be a 1 time thing, or a year long problem.
    Yeah, and that's the issue with such a young player. No real track record to see if it's something that might be chronic or not. Bet now that the medical staff knows about it, preventing it from being long-term just became one of their top priorities.
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    W, L, GA, SHO, SV (Goal)
    Start 12 F 6 D 2 G
    11 Player Bench (Max 2 Bench G)
    15 Player Farm Team

    F: Kucherov, Teravainen, Galchenyuk, Johansen, W Nylander, W Karlsson, Gourde, Vrana, Athanasiou, Vatrano, Buchnevich, Haula, Stastny, Puljujarvi, Eberle, Little, Kovalchuk, Kravtsov, Terry, Bertuzzi, Bratt, Kunin, Hintz, Heinen, Kahun, Sikura, Chytil, Iafallo
    D: E Karlsson, Montour, Gardiner, Girard, Faulk, Martinez, Fox, Cernak, Weegar, Pionk, Pilut, Bayreuther
    G: Gibson, Bishop, Raanta, Allen, Talbot, Blackwood, Delia, Husso

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    Well this will hurt if it turns into something worse then initially projected.. Stroman says it's nothing serious and he will be back to start the season, just may not be opening day..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorro View Post
    Well this will hurt if it turns into something worse then initially projected.. Stroman says it's nothing serious and he will be back to start the season, just may not be opening day..

    We need all hands on deck this season!!
    The guy saying it's not serious is the same person who hid it tho. Well, guess we have Garcia and Biagini to start the season as the 4/5 starters.

    Sanchez, Happ, Estrada, Biagini, Garcia, Sanchez, Happ, Estrada, Biagini, Stroman, Sanchez, Happ, Estrada, Biagini, Stroman as your rotation? By the 3rd time through you're going with Stroman/Sanchez as your 1/2 pitchers.
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    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    The guy saying it's not serious is the same person who hid it tho. Well, guess we have Garcia and Biagini to start the season as the 4/5 starters.

    Sanchez, Happ, Estrada, Biagini, Garcia, Sanchez, Happ, Estrada, Biagini, Stroman, Sanchez, Happ, Estrada, Biagini, Stroman as your rotation? By the 3rd time through you're going with Stroman/Sanchez as your 1/2 pitchers.
    That was the plan before the injury came out, so to be able to get into the planned rotation quickly is going to be huge. Hopefully he doesn't miss more than that first run through. Much more than that is going to be a real quick test of their depth.
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    G 1.5, A 1, PPP 1, SHP 1, +/- 0.5, MmP 0.25/Min, HIT 0.1, GWG 3, BLK 0.25 Gordie Howe Hattricks 10 (Skaters)
    W, L, GA, SHO, SV (Goal)
    Start 12 F 6 D 2 G
    11 Player Bench (Max 2 Bench G)
    15 Player Farm Team

    F: Kucherov, Teravainen, Galchenyuk, Johansen, W Nylander, W Karlsson, Gourde, Vrana, Athanasiou, Vatrano, Buchnevich, Haula, Stastny, Puljujarvi, Eberle, Little, Kovalchuk, Kravtsov, Terry, Bertuzzi, Bratt, Kunin, Hintz, Heinen, Kahun, Sikura, Chytil, Iafallo
    D: E Karlsson, Montour, Gardiner, Girard, Faulk, Martinez, Fox, Cernak, Weegar, Pionk, Pilut, Bayreuther
    G: Gibson, Bishop, Raanta, Allen, Talbot, Blackwood, Delia, Husso

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    The guy saying it's not serious is the same person who hid it tho. Well, guess we have Garcia and Biagini to start the season as the 4/5 starters.

    Sanchez, Happ, Estrada, Biagini, Garcia, Sanchez, Happ, Estrada, Biagini, Stroman, Sanchez, Happ, Estrada, Biagini, Stroman as your rotation? By the 3rd time through you're going with Stroman/Sanchez as your 1/2 pitchers.
    He looked so honest when he said it though, HaHa.. I trusted him..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorro View Post
    He looked so honest when he said it though, HaHa.. I trusted him..
    I'm honestly starting to question how much dedication Stroman has to a team. To me it seems his HDMH brand is higher on his priority list than the Jays.

    Like I get you have to worry about yourself, but it seems like he's too caught up in his ego. But his ego is what has gotten him to the MLB and what makes him pitch well. This shoulder thing and what he said after the arbitration hearing (which EVERYONE knows what happens in those) just makes me think he's got this me first, then the team mentality.
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    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    I went to his twitter page just to check out what he is up too and you are right about his HDMH brand. This is what the world has come too.. These celebrities love making headlines about donating money here and there but in the end it is all about "me, me, me"..

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MStrooo6?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorro View Post
    I went to his twitter page just to check out what he is up too and you are right about his HDMH brand. This is what the world has come too.. These celebrities love making headlines about donating money here and there but in the end it is all about "me, me, me"..

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MStrooo6?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
    I have yet to see a HDMH + Jays collaboration shirt/hat/series. Like, that would be such an easy market to exploit in my mind. He's done a Canada version of a (1, singular, uno) T-shirt.

    Take that as you will, but to me he sees the Jays as a team, not his team
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    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Do you guys expect much from the Blue Jays this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    Do you guys expect much from the Blue Jays this season?
    Maybe? It's a long season, but their division is always so stacked that a lot of it will come down to who's healthy and when I think.
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    G 1.5, A 1, PPP 1, SHP 1, +/- 0.5, MmP 0.25/Min, HIT 0.1, GWG 3, BLK 0.25 Gordie Howe Hattricks 10 (Skaters)
    W, L, GA, SHO, SV (Goal)
    Start 12 F 6 D 2 G
    11 Player Bench (Max 2 Bench G)
    15 Player Farm Team

    F: Kucherov, Teravainen, Galchenyuk, Johansen, W Nylander, W Karlsson, Gourde, Vrana, Athanasiou, Vatrano, Buchnevich, Haula, Stastny, Puljujarvi, Eberle, Little, Kovalchuk, Kravtsov, Terry, Bertuzzi, Bratt, Kunin, Hintz, Heinen, Kahun, Sikura, Chytil, Iafallo
    D: E Karlsson, Montour, Gardiner, Girard, Faulk, Martinez, Fox, Cernak, Weegar, Pionk, Pilut, Bayreuther
    G: Gibson, Bishop, Raanta, Allen, Talbot, Blackwood, Delia, Husso

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    Do you guys expect much from the Blue Jays this season?
    If healthy, they can get the 2nd wildcard. The key would be beating up on the Orioles and TBR and not letting them go 500 with you like they always seem too. Win the games they're supposed to and health are the 2 keys to their season.
    12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    Do you guys expect much from the Blue Jays this season?
    It's going to be a tough task because of the Yanks and Redsox and how many times we are going to have to play them.. I also think everything has to go right for the Jays to make the playoffs..

    I love the Jays, they are my #1, but I'm not holding my breath this season.. I will be watching and cheering for them every game but its going to be very hard for this team to get into a playoff spot..
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