He wasn't even that good at the AHL level, so I totally agree with you here.
I've been reading in a couple of places that Buffalo is going to have him up in the NHL again this year. Are they really going to keep making this mistake? I feel like its more important for him to get a year in the AHL before he tries to make the jump to the NHL again.
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He wasn't even that good at the AHL level, so I totally agree with you here.
Tyler Ennis, Cody Hodgson, Sam Reinhart, and potentially McDavid or Eichel next year. His window is closing fast before he's all but forgotten here.
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Can anyone show me where there is talk of him playing in the NHL next season?
Grigorenko has been bulking up hard this off season and has been training hard. I agree with you guys that he should spend a year in the AHL to further his development but from what happened last year with him not wanting to head to the Q i honestly believe that he will be in the NHL next year or they will trade him.
the guy has 43 games of NHL experience.
He is 20 years, 2 months and 6 days old ONLY
How can this guy be a flop ?
How can you know if he's going to be good or no good ? ?
at 21 years old Hodgson had play a huge total of 8 games...grigo is ahead in his development
I know I own him but you have to give time to this dude, his has dominated everywhere he's been almost all his life and he's bulking up a good frame and he is going to be good with all the kid in this team.....and yeah 1 good year in AHL should be good for him and he'll be up with injuries during the season to never look back again
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I picked him last year in my limited keeper, clearly I was too soon.
I think it's safe to say sharpp87 wasn't including his 12 game AHL stint in his "dominated everywhere" statement.
Obviously Grigorenko has a ways to go, and starting this season in the AHL is his best course. That short stint in Rochester last year started with 4 points in his first 3 games....then scoreless the rest of the season. The talent is still there, and it's pretty ridiculous that Grigo has been written off by so many people because he wasn't ready for the NHL at 19-20 years old. Not saying you were posting that about him, but it's a pretty widespread thing. He was a 12th overall pick....if he had been totally NHL ready he would have gone top 3 or 4 in his draft year.
So ya, hopefully Grigo gets some good time in the AHL. Let him skate 18 minutes a night as a top line center, give him a chance to really show what he can do. And if he can show some improvement, then bring him up to Buffalo partway through the season. Or leave him in Rochester all year.
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What a waste of a talent.
the Sabres ruined this kid.
I wonder what would have happened to him had he been drafted by a better team?
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He ruined himself. He really is nothing special. He's like a spezza without the same talent level.
He isn't ruined and he's not a flop, he's just not ready for the NHL yet. Let him get his confidence back in the AHL, bring him up the year after.
First off, I'd like to see where you read that the Sabres are planning on starting him in the NHL this year. He has come out and said he wants to start there, but I'd like to see where you have read this.
Second, he is far from a flop or ruined. He's a prospect still learning his way. He is the first one to admit that he is to blame for not sticking with the Sabres.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=726520
This kid has plenty of time to get it together, if the Sabres do it right this time. Who knows, maybe he comes into camp this year and earns a spot. I fully expect him to start the year in the AHL.
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