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    As a spinoff to the excellent face of a franchise thread, I thought we might try to nominate the “shame of the franchise.”

    What I have in mind are players that have come to epitomize bad management decisions, dark times for fans or missed opportunities. For example, this could be a bad signing, a bad trade, a notoriously bad draft decision, an over-the-hill legend who does not know when to quit or simply a player who symbolizes a particularly dark era in a franchise history (the captain or best player of a very bad hockey team).

    Hopefully, we can come up with names of players that are well-known (so not a draft pick who simply faded into oblivion –except perhaps for first overalls), but for the wrong reasons.

    Here are some of my suggestions, I’ll try to add as I continue to think about it.

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    Anaheim Ducks –
    Arizona Coyotes/1st Winnipeg Jets – Brett Hull
    Calgary Flames – Gary Leeman
    Edmonton Oilers – Jimmy Carson (not his fault, but the main piece in the infamous trade)
    Los Angeles Kings -
    San Jose Sharks –
    Vancouver Canucks – Mark Messier
    Chicago Blackhawks – Alexei Zhamnov
    Colorado Avalanche/Québec Nordiques – Guy Lafleur (he retired too early, only to make a comeback and retire much too late)
    Dallas Stars – Sean Avery
    Minnesota Wild – Dany Heatley
    Nashville Predators – Alexander Radulov
    St. Louis Blues –
    Thrashers/2nd Winnipeg Jets – Patrik Stefan

    EAST
    Boston Bruins -
    Buffalo Sabres – Ville Leino
    Detroit Red Wings – Marcel Dionne (traded him away just as he was hitting his prime)
    Florida Panthers -
    Montréal Canadiens – Jocelyn Thibault (see Jimmy Carson above for rationale).
    Ottawa Senators – Alexandre Daigle
    Tampa Bay Lightning –
    Toronto Maple Leafs – Andrew Raycroft
    Carolina Hurricanes –
    Columbus Blue Jackets – Jeff Carter
    New Jersey Devils – Ilya Kovalchuk
    New York Islanders – Rick DiPietro
    New York Rangers – Bobby Holik? (Many to choose from here thanks to Sather)
    Philadelphia Flyers – Ilya Bryzgalov
    Pittsburgh Penguins – Kris Beech (he ain’t got the moves like Jagr)
    Washington Capitals – Ovie (there, I said it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Colorado Avalanche/Québec Nordiques – Eric Lindros
    I fixed this one for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    I fixed this one for you.
    Haha! Considered it, but that actually worked out in the Nordiques' favour.

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    cam neely for vancouver --- traded for what?????
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    I would put Heatley in Atlanta...

    Vladimir Malakhov was a good embarrassment as a Hab too. My pick would be Rejean Houle if you could add managers to the list.

    Yashin should probably be there for the Islanders..(still paying him...) More than DiPietro in my mind, as for DiPietro it was less intentional.
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    Montreal should be Gomez! lol
    Carolina - Cullen? They gave up Ronnie Franchise for what they thought was a 90-point player
    LA - yellow uniforms...Glenn Healy?
    SJ - Falloon?
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    Falloon!
    Yes.

    Oh, Atlanta/Winnipeg.
    This guy:

    Worst #1 draft pick ever???

    Also known for the worst shot in NHL history... well it wasn't a shot... on net:

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    Oh wow. I thought I had struck gold with Falloon's rookie card!

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    If we can do management decisions I’d say NJ’s would be arena location.
    Florida - petr Taticek? He was a 9t overall. Semin, Cam Ward, Keith, Steen all picked after
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    Montreal Canadiens - Doug Wickenheiser (versus drafting local phenom Denis Savard withthe first overall pick)
    Vancouver Canucks - Cam Neely (the answer is 100% Neely)
    Arizona Coyotes/1st Winnipeg Jets – Teemu Selanne (getting rid of him for Oleg Tverdovsky & Chad Kilger)
    New York Islanders - Yashin (willingly traded traded Chara AND Spezza to get him, then handed him that ridiculous contract and put the C on his chest)
    Chicago Blackhawks - Phil Esposito (considered one the most lopsided trades in NHL history)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobber View Post
    Montreal should be Gomez! lol
    Carolina - Cullen? They gave up Ronnie Franchise for what they thought was a 90-point player
    LA - yellow uniforms...Glenn Healy?
    SJ - Falloon?
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    Columbus - Steve Mason

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    Carolina Hurricanes - Keith Primeau

    or today, Eric Staal? LOL works hard when he wants to, lazy POS
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    Detroit - TIE Bernie Federko/Tony McKegney.
    (the ridiculouslessly awful return they got for Adam Oates)

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