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    Default Rank these six guys for 2014-2015

    Patrick Marleau
    Rick Nash
    Eric Staal
    Bobby Ryan
    Jordan Eberle
    Marian Gaborik

    for the keeper league in my sig, but I want a more short term perspective on these guys.

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    Staal
    Marleau
    Ryan
    Eberle
    Gaborik
    Nash

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    These would be my rankings:

    Eric Staaal
    Patrick Marleau
    Jordan Eberle
    Rick Nash (would be ahead of Eberle if not for injury risk)
    Marion Gaborik
    Bobby Ryan
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    Staal
    Marleau
    Nash
    Eberle
    Ryan
    Gaborik

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmorrow136 View Post
    Patrick Marleau
    Rick Nash
    Eric Staal
    Bobby Ryan
    Jordan Eberle
    Marian Gaborik

    for the keeper league in my sig, but I want a more short term perspective on these guys.
    I'll say:

    Staal
    Nash
    Marleau
    Ryan
    Eberle
    Gaborik

    And judging by some of these rankings around here, I would say that Rick Nash is going to be a BARGAIN on draft-day.
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    Staal
    Nash
    Ryan
    Marleau
    Eberle
    Gaborik
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    Staal
    eberle
    Marleau
    Nash
    Ryan
    Gaborik
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    Staal
    Marleau
    Gaborik
    Eberle
    Nash
    Ryan
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    Whew, thanks Savvy1982 - thought I was losing my mind. Gaborik is such a huge injury risk, but healthy he has to be up there - I put him in a tie in your ranking with Marleau actually - but concur with the rest. There is a lot of talent on that list and it could easily mean some of those guys find lightening in a bottle and make our projections look sick though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoeless View Post
    Whew, thanks Savvy1982 - thought I was losing my mind. Gaborik is such a huge injury risk, but healthy he has to be up there - I put him in a tie in your ranking with Marleau actually - but concur with the rest. There is a lot of talent on that list and it could easily mean some of those guys find lightening in a bottle and make our projections look sick though.
    Agreed. This was a tough ranking for sure. I had Ryan and Gaborik as my bottom two but both could conceivably hit 70 points while everyone else is in the high 50's and 60's. Kind of a crap shoot with a group like this.

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    Not sure I agree with a single ranking I have seen yet. This may come down to preference for how you structure your team, but I think everyone in this thread is:
    1) under-valuing peripheral categories like shots
    2) under-valuing position
    3) over-emphasizing points

    In your league with those stats and positions, I'm going with:
    Marleau
    Nash
    Ryan
    Staal
    Eberle/Gaborik


    Marleau provides great shots and hits, and can put up 70 points. Nash can do over 320 shots per year, he was hitting in the playoffs and may be back to 100 hit years, and can do 55-60 pts with upside of 70. Ryan does OK shots (which knocks him below nash for me), but good hits and can do 60-65 pts. Staal's shooting days are gone and I think he will get 220-230 shots from now on, and fall between 63 and 69 pts.

    Marleau, Nash, and Ryan are all also LW eligible as well - Staal being centre bumps him down for me.

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    Marleau
    Ryan
    Nash
    Staal
    Gaborik
    Eberle

    I really liked what I saw from Nash in the playoffs, but I think Ryan has the opportunity to be one of if not THE scorer for Ottawa this year given their current roster. A healthy Ryan should pick up right where he left off prior to December. Would love to rank Gabby higher, but in your scoring settings there are really only 4 relevant scoring categories that he will contribute to. Same with Staal, he is a great asset to have when FO stats are included just not as much in your current settings IMO.
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    Staal: 65-75 (Too good to dip below 65, and could get back to his usally 70+) *Safe one year bet
    Nash:65-72(Bounce Back if healthy)
    Eberle: 60-70 (Hall stays healthy 70 if not a standard 60)* Tie with below as best long term own
    Ryan:60-65 (Scoring Depth) * Tie with above for best long term own
    Gaborik:55-65 (injuries but if healthy watch out) *Best Risk/Reward
    Marleau:55-65 (age)
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