Trouba vs Rielly

[plug]

Watching Trouba this past season, he was often the best player on the ice. Incredible maturity and hockey IQ. He has a natural instinct for when to join the rush. He carries the puck into the offensive zone like a seasoned vet. Admittedly, I didn't see much of Reilly, but was that b/c he didn't play much? I didn't notice him on the ice when the Leafs played as much as I noticed Trouba when I watched the Jets play.

This is about exactly where I am at.

[2014olympicgold]

Leaf fan here, I’ll make some points on Rielly to help clear up some points. I won’t say who I rather have because it’s very biased.

He played 73 games (healthy scratch for the other 9). He was on and off at the beginning of the season prior to the point where they could of sent him back to the AHL without wasting a yr on his contract. Once he got past that mark he was playing 10-15(MAX) a game till December I think. Then he was allowed a larger leash time wise. Once it was obvious he couldn’t sustain 15-19 minutes strongly, he was taken back and lost a lot of Carlyle’s faith. He then became a powerplay specialist so to speak. He and Gardiner were 2^nd pair (1^st pair some games). Once he got Carlyle’s faith back he then became low even strength minutes, high powerplay minutes.

His highest even strength TOI was coming at the end of the season. 19.6min March 25^th, 17.6min March 29^th, 17.3min April 10^th, 17min April 8^th. This was also the time of the year the Leafs had 7 defense dressed to help manage all their times. I think Phaneuf only played an average of 22 minutes when they ran with 7 D-men.

With Dion Phaneuf and Franson possibly not playing next yr, Rielly just moved from a 4^th or 5^th D to 2^nd or 3^rd. More minutes more points.

Big point I’m putting across is that he was limited at the beginning of the season time wise and also they were baby-ing when it came to situational play (not playing in the final minutes and such). End of the season he had a lot of faith from Carlyle and was given a lot of minutes. 27 points in 73 games with 16minutes per game played. That’s a point every 43minutes played. If he plays 22minutes a game that translates to 40pts. Obviously there are more factors, but I wouldn’t be surprised with more ice time, and a lack of either Franson or Phaneuf 50pts wouldn’t be out of the question.

[Pengwin7]

Trouba, for me.

[franklin]

I'd go with Trouba because his game is more mature. He will produce sooner and he is less risky. But it's close.

[sharpp87]

I own both and I still dont know witch one I prefer.

Why dont you try to trade Letang + like Turris to get a better RW than Voracek, Semin, Scheifele.... Try to keep Scheifele if you can too.

than hope he dont pick Reilly so you get a better RW, you get both Trouba and Reilly and than you will be able to get a another good D for sure somewhere

[Reuben]

His highest even strength TOI was coming at the end of the season. 19.6min March 25^th, 17.6min March 29^th, 17.3min April 10^th, 17min April 8^th. This was also the time of the year the Leafs had 7 defense dressed to help manage all their times. I think Phaneuf only played an average of 22 minutes when they ran with 7 D-men.

So to summarize - you're saying that as the Leafs season careened out of control, Rielly was playing more and more minutes? Coincidence?



I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Sorry, couldn't resist being a jerkoff.

[Big Baby]

I actually like Reilly, more offensive upside. Think Karlsson

Trouba looks to become more all around dman which may hurt his numbers. Think Pietrangelo

[2014olympicgold]

So to summarize - you're saying that as the Leafs season careened out of control, Rielly was playing more and more minutes? Coincidence?



I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Sorry, couldn't resist being a jerkoff.

I was thinking more of a good trend moving forward, seeing Rielly have more ice time when the leafs were still in the playoffs/playoff hunt. When Rielly’s minutes increased, his PP time did too and with D more PP time usually equals more points.

The same time when Riellys minutes increased, Phanuefs decreased! So he's actually the key to the Leafs winning! And I’m in so much denial about the Leafs I feel like I should be put in an asylum.

[deantime419]

Hate speculating too much but Trouba's all around game could hurt his fantasy numbers, especially if Morrissey pans out.
Dead even for me tbh. Rielly has a higher offensive ceiling but Trouba is still safer to produce next year.
The type of league it is could be the deciding factor for me.

[theIceWookie]

I was thinking more of a good trend moving forward, seeing Rielly have more ice time when the leafs were still in the playoffs/playoff hunt. When Rielly’s minutes increased, his PP time did too and with D more PP time usually equals more points.

Rielly and Gardiner we're basically our best two players down that terrible season ending stretch. They often looked like they were the only ones who had energy enough to try and make an impact on the game.

[theIceWookie]

Hate speculating too much but Trouba's all around game could hurt his fantasy numbers, especially if Morrissey pans out.
Dead even for me tbh. Rielly has a higher offensive ceiling but Trouba is still safer to produce next year.
The type of league it is could be the deciding factor for me.

This is a great post. Pretty much how I see it. Trouba has nice multi cat options but those will limit his point numbers. Though to be fair, I'm not sure Morrisey panning out would be a bad thing for him. The two of them could be the long term PP1 unit...

Reilly has likely a little longer of a development curve before he's seeing the type of numbers fantasy GM's want.

Both will be close when it's all said and done.

[deantime419]

You're right - Morrissey panning out could be a good thing but it could also push Trouba to PP2 as so many teams use 4 forwards these days. Plus Buff and Enstrom have still yet to turn 30.
He'll be a great dman for sure but it will be interesting to see what kind of fantasy asset he'll be.

[Kabonov]

Trouba still edges Rielly eventhough I'm a Rielly fan.