Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 53

Thread: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

  1. #16
    kovalchuk17's Avatar
    kovalchuk17 is offline
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    2,283
    Rep Power
    19

    Dobber Sports Pro

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    it is a little weird theyre hiring a coach before a GM though
    One day I will quit fantasy hockey, today is not that day.

  2. #17
    Location
    Nova Scotia
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Titan

    Default Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...52265472380929

    Not sure what's out there or who deserves credit for initial report, but hearing Barry Trotz has informed teams he is no longer...
    https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...52388252270592

    available as a candidate. It is believed he is closing in with Washington.

    https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...59418622988288

    Report of Trotz to Washington originally came from @garylawless
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, JaBenn, Couture, Wheeler, Eriksson, Chimera, Turris, Steen, Letang, Kucherov, Brouwer, Byfuglien, Burns, Zuccarello, Hoffman, KHayes, JSchwartz, Fabbri, Spooner, Shattenkirk, Boedker, KPalmieri

    G-Rask, Halak


    "Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but donít stare.. Unless youíre wearing sunglasses."

  3. #18
    Location
    Japan
    Rep Power
    16

    Dobber Sports Initiate

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    interesting times in Washington

    I think we should give Trotz credit for his experience. I for one think he is more than capable of working with a top player like Alex Ovechkin.

    The bigger issue for me is the next GM and how he will tweak the roster because it needs to be "adjusted"
    Consider APBA Sim Hockey because guys who play shutdown minutes, deflect shots and clear creases build championships. Yet in fantasy they litter the unwanted UFA lists.

  4. #19
    Location
    Nova Scotia
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Titan

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Theres also rumors of Claude Noel joining him as an assistant coach. We will see I guess.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, JaBenn, Couture, Wheeler, Eriksson, Chimera, Turris, Steen, Letang, Kucherov, Brouwer, Byfuglien, Burns, Zuccarello, Hoffman, KHayes, JSchwartz, Fabbri, Spooner, Shattenkirk, Boedker, KPalmieri

    G-Rask, Halak


    "Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but donít stare.. Unless youíre wearing sunglasses."

  5. #20
    Mr. Guru's Avatar
    Mr. Guru is offline
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    7,247
    Location
    Toronto
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Master

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Coach before GM is just stupid.

  6. #21
    Location
    Pickering
    Rep Power
    40

    I...am your father.

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Guru View Post
    Coach before GM is just stupid.
    This.

    Agreed
    The Best Fantasy Hockey Site
    14 Team Keeper, points only, best 12 skaters 3 dman 2 G count. Playoffs count.
    F - Crosby, Wheeler, Zuccarello, Brassard, Marchand, Tavares, Kesler, Gagner, K.Hayes, Perron, Kunitz, Nelson, Lee, Kreider, Scherbak, Tlusty, Bertuzzi, Weal
    G - Anderson, Halak, Stalock, Talbot, Pickard
    D - Yandle, Kronwall, D.Pouliot, Letang, Larsson, Stralman, Gostisbehere

  7. #22
    mister_mcgoo's Avatar
    mister_mcgoo is offline
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    19,119
    Rep Power
    0

    Banned

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dobber View Post
    This.

    Agreed
    Not necessarily...what if he's to be coach and GM?

  8. #23
    plug's Avatar
    plug is online now
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    2,215
    Rep Power
    30

    Dobber Sports Pro

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Trotz as a GM also.. Just never thought that, but it's kinda interesting.

  9. #24
    Location
    Pickering
    Rep Power
    40

    I...am your father.

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Quote Originally Posted by mister_mcgoo View Post
    Not necessarily...what if he's to be coach and GM?
    Ahhhhh!


    * [ ]


    Legend:
    McGoo's thought - *
    The Box - [ ]
    The Best Fantasy Hockey Site
    14 Team Keeper, points only, best 12 skaters 3 dman 2 G count. Playoffs count.
    F - Crosby, Wheeler, Zuccarello, Brassard, Marchand, Tavares, Kesler, Gagner, K.Hayes, Perron, Kunitz, Nelson, Lee, Kreider, Scherbak, Tlusty, Bertuzzi, Weal
    G - Anderson, Halak, Stalock, Talbot, Pickard
    D - Yandle, Kronwall, D.Pouliot, Letang, Larsson, Stralman, Gostisbehere

  10. #25
    Username's Avatar
    Username is offline
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    885
    Rep Power
    9

    Dobber Sports Initiate

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Trotz has won one playoff series in his 15-season NHL head coach career, so he'll fit right in with the losers in Washington.

  11. #26
    Atomic Wedgy's Avatar
    Atomic Wedgy is online now
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    5,858
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Sage

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Quote Originally Posted by jcairns View Post
    Maybe I am wrong, but I don't get the fuss over Trotz and being "defensive". I find he is a coach that does what he can with the players at his disposal. In Nashville, he had to play a well-structured, defensive game. I think he will be great for Washington, IMO.
    I think I agree with this. The best coaches in the game are adaptable. They will look to make use of the tools they have in the cupboard. If this happens, I'm very interested to see what he can do.
    O&B Dream Team
    Bill Barber - Bobby Clarke - Tim Kerr
    Mark Howe - Chris Pronger
    Bernie Parent

    Farm: Giroux

  12. #27
    Zorro's Avatar
    Zorro is online now
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    17,018
    Location
    Canada
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Ninja

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Quote Originally Posted by Username View Post
    Trotz has won one playoff series in his 15-season NHL head coach career, so he'll fit right in with the losers in Washington.
    Wow, I wouldn't go that far Username 1273433..
    Zorro says "vote for Dobber"
    Angus is my best friend at dobberhockey..

  13. #28
    hockeymanG23's Avatar
    hockeymanG23 is online now
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    2,721
    Rep Power
    31

    Dobber Sports Veteran

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Quote Originally Posted by jcairns View Post
    Maybe I am wrong, but I don't get the fuss over Trotz and being "defensive". I find he is a coach that does what he can with the players at his disposal. In Nashville, he had to play a well-structured, defensive game. I think he will be great for Washington, IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by kovalchuk17 View Post
    Kariya and forsberg were effective offensive players for Nashville, I don't see the issue. Don't forget Sullivan/Legwand/walker were also a relatively productive offensive line as well
    Quote Originally Posted by mister_mcgoo View Post
    Exactly, it's hilarious how people paint this or that coach with these broad brushes.
    Bottom line is that good coaches are good coaches because they can look at the pieces they have and design a gameplan that maximizes their strengths and minimizes the weaknesses. Trotz is a very good coach, he'll be fine and so will Ovie, you guys are making mountains out of molehills
    I agree with all of this.

    2003-04 Scott Walker- 67 points
    2005-06 Paul Kariya- 85 points
    2006-07 Paul Kariya- 76 points
    2007-08 JP Dumont and Jason Arnott- 72 points

    Most of these guys were able to score under Trotz despite playing on a typically weak roster. Also, outside of Kariya the rest of these players weren't noted to be particularly big scorers and all had their most productive seasons points-wise playing for the Preds.

    Trotz has rarely had the personnel to play a high octane offence but has prodded scoring out of the role players he's been given. I have no doubt that he'll be able to employ a system that fits the Caps and the players he has.
    10 team full keeper roto 4C/LW/RW,6D,2G

    G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
    W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO

    C-Backes,Getzlaf,Giroux,Kopitar
    LW-Ladd,JVR,Panarin,Zetterberg
    RW-Kucherov,Oshie,Simmonds,Toffoli
    D-Carlson,Chara,Josi,Klingberg,Martinez,Yandle
    G-Crawford,Dubnyk
    BN-Alzner,Hanzal,Kessel,Markov
    Armia,Chiasson,Connolly,Couturier,Dano,Etem,Fiala, Girgensons,Kapanen,Merkley,Nieto,Palmieri,Pastrnak ,Rychel,Stransky,Vesey,Zacha
    Barberio,Gardiner,Gormley,Gudas,Kulikov,Marincin,M oore,Morrow,Nurse,Savard,Sproul,Vatanen,Werenski
    Allen,F.Andersen,Broissot,Campbell,Hackett,Husso,S tolarz,Williams

  14. #29
    Dakkster's Avatar
    Dakkster is offline
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    11,670
    Location
    Halmstad, Sweden
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Juggernaut

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Scott Walker had 67 goddamn points in one season???
    GO WINGS!

  15. #30
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Grand Master

    Default Re: Ovechkin's not gonna like his new coach... (ahem - Trotz)

    Trotz's Predators were actually 11th and 5th in goals per games (6th and 4th in 5v5 goals per game) when he had some offensive options, like Paul Kariya.

    He's also gone on record saying that he doesn't let his style control the players and that he lets his players and the team in front of him, dictate how he coaches. Think the "defensive" idea with Trotz is overblown - when he had offensive players, like Kariya, he coached a more uptempo style. When he had current day Nashville, where the only star players were Rinne/Suter/Weber, it makes sense to coach a more defensive-oriented style.

    There's some great reading on him coming to Washington, you can check it out here:

    http://www.japersrink.com/2014/5/24/...-to-washington

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •