Giroux vs Rask

[islefan31]

I know it's difficult to rank a forward vs a goalie, but who would you rather have in a keep 4? I love Giroux, but my biggest issue this year by far was goaltending. I drafted tenth last year in a straight draft and will be drafting 9th this year, so it's always a crap shoot as to who will drop. We had 3 GMs unable to make the draft and auto-picked which absolutaly killed me this year. There are very few goalies you can count on year in and year out so it makes this even more difficult. Pick a group..

A - Sid, Ovie, Giroux, Karlsson
or
B - Sid, Ovie, Karlsson, Rask

[HockeyProphet]

Side B for me. This gives your arguably the best player at each position.

[Pengwin7]

Being a shallow pool (10 teams x 2C), I think I'd hedge towards Rask.

He is the #1 goalie in fantasy hockey, IMO.
That makes him #1/20 at his position.

I dig Giroux too... but he's more like #4/20 at his position in this league (behind Crosby/Malkin/Stamkos... possibly Tavares, but I'd say Giroux slightly more valuable in multi-cat)

[2014olympicgold]

Rask. He solidifies any goalie situation. I had the most wins, best S%, top 3 in GAA and I was using Rask, Bernier, and Khudobin. Bernier was a pleasant surprise, but still he wasn’t elite. With Rask, you can push to draft a goalie late in the draft and still find success. With Grioux, he can be replaced with a few role players. Vermette and Steen could replace the production Giroux would bring.

[islefan31]

Just a little food for thought, there are usually 6-8 goalies retained on average each season so there's always some quality at that position, but not of a Rask type. But again, drafting late kills your chances and if there are 2 or more auto draft teams then it makes it even harder to land a decent starter.

[gainerama]

Side B for me with ease.

[suvojitde]

Just a little food for thought, there are usually 6-8 goalies retained on average each season so there's always some quality at that position, but not of a Rask type. But again, drafting late kills your chances and if there are 2 or more auto draft teams then it makes it even harder to land a decent starter.

That clarification seals it further for me. Much as I like Giroux (even started a thread to tout his return to eliteness!) it has to be Rask. With him (and the others in Group B) you are A+ solid in all positions (Center, Winger, D, G)

[Laendarian]

I'd lean towards keeping Rask as well. If you keep Giroux you are definitely drafting a goalie in the first round but if you keep Rask you have the flexibility to draft the BPA until maybe the 3rd - 4th round before being forced to get a second G.

[sammynos]

My first post so take it with a grain of salt (gotta start somewhere!)

Definitely side B...you have tons of scoring between Ovi and Sid then one of the best offensive defensemen in the game...no need for extra fire power when you can keep one of the best goalies.

[Pengwin7]

My first post so take it with a grain of salt (gotta start somewhere!)

Definitely side B...you have tons of scoring between Ovi and Sid then one of the best offensive defensemen in the game...no need for extra fire power when you can keep one of the best goalies.

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[Kofax]

Coming from the other side, I kind of like Giroux better in this format which is scoring heavy. G/A/PPG/PPA/SOG, seems like categories Giroux can have a strong affect on. Rask would only affect 4, being W/SV/SV%/GAA.

I know Rask will be the primary contributor to his stats while Giroux will be a smaller part of a bigger picture, but the goaltending also comes with greater flux built into the position year to year and has a greater reliance on team play. If you're able to trade a palyer or two to upgrade a pick and make sure you at least pick in the middle of the first, you could likely get a serviceable goalie that will provide serviceable stats. I would look to secure the SV category with and focus more on those offensive cats.

My two cents anyhow.

[agentzero]

Sid, Ovie, Karlsson, Rask. How the hell do you lose with that core? Easily the winner and you pretty well have yourself the best at each position in the league right there.

[islefan31]

My first post so take it with a grain of salt (gotta start somewhere!)

Definitely side B...you have tons of scoring between Ovi and Sid then one of the best offensive defensemen in the game...no need for extra fire power when you can keep one of the best goalies.

Welcome to the boards and thanks.

[islefan31]

Coming from the other side, I kind of like Giroux better in this format which is scoring heavy. G/A/PPG/PPA/SOG, seems like categories Giroux can have a strong affect on. Rask would only affect 4, being W/SV/SV%/GAA.

I know Rask will be the primary contributor to his stats while Giroux will be a smaller part of a bigger picture, but the goaltending also comes with greater flux built into the position year to year and has a greater reliance on team play. If you're able to trade a palyer or two to upgrade a pick and make sure you at least pick in the middle of the first, you could likely get a serviceable goalie that will provide serviceable stats. I would look to secure the SV category with and focus more on those offensive cats.

My two cents anyhow.

That is usually my thinking as well, however, I spent a major portion of my season trying to upgrade my goalies as I had Leghtonen and Halak as my starters. I went after offense with my 1st two picks after all the top tenders went off the board before my turn. Bishop ended up costing me Kunitz, who was one of my top scorers at the time of the trade. I think it's easier to land a pretty good #2 in rounds 3,4,5 than it is a 70+ point/multi cat player. If I could wait until round 4 to grab a #2 that's 3 forwards that can easily make up for Giroux. At least on paper.

[MJFP]

Id take the Rask side, I mean I don' do leagues with your categories anymore cause I find them so annoying but I would always fall behind on Goalie categories. Really no wrong answer but I'd rather shore up all my positions before stacking any.