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    Categories are in my signature. Would you keep Kessel or Seguin as your 4th and final keeper?

    My keepers so far are:

    Ovechkin
    Subban
    Lundqvist

    So Kessel or Seguin?

    Let's hear your opinions gentlemen! I'm a bit torn.

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    Pretty close. But put me down for Seguin.
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    Upside vs. consistent, almost guaranteed 81-85 points. Wow

    I think I'd go with Seguin and hope for 90+
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    Can you make a package deal with anybody in the league with a weak fourth keeper for a stud?
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    That's a good idea. Maybe a giroux for kessel and seguin. Or mackinnon and a 1st for kessel and seguin. Good suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoochie Coochie Man View Post
    Can you make a package deal with anybody in the league with a weak fourth keeper for a stud?
    Seguin is you stud! Lol

    If you package them, you'd ideally get a player a step above. Giroux would be somewhat lateral.
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    I didn't mean to impugn Seguin's studliness, haha. But you should be able to get someone better than Giroux. You don't necessarily have to package Kessel and Seguin either. I would be willing to deal Subban and one of Kessel and Seguin if it could get you a top 5 player.
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    Welcome to the boards.

    You should probably specify your starting positions in your signature as well.

    Also, if relevant depending on your positions, does Seguin have RW eligibility? If so, do you think he'll keep it? Something to consider.

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    10x3 H2H league, keep 4 - I would easily keep both over Lundqvist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoeless View Post
    10x3 H2H league, keep 4 - I would easily keep both over Lundqvist.
    Looking again at the settings and Shoeless' suggestion is a good one. Plus, the goalie categories are all quantity based so you really don't need elite goalies, just decent ones who are workhorses. Shutouts rarely happen on a weekly basis so most weeks it's only two categories for goalies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    Looking again at the settings and Shoeless' suggestion is a good one. Plus, the goalie categories are all quantity based so you really don't need elite goalies, just decent ones who are workhorses. Shutouts rarely happen on a weekly basis so most weeks it's only two categories for goalies.
    Top 10 point getters this year are goalies because saves are worth a lot and there are 4 goalie roster spots on every team. They also count shootouts and shoutout wins, which is silly, but makes goalies more valuable. It's H2H points not cats.

    All is to say I think Lundqvist is a keeper here. #4 overall in points so far this year-- and he had an awful start to the year.

    Also, id hang on to Subban as well since he puts up as much Fantasy points as a forward with DA and DG.

    2 for 1 upgrade is the ideal scenario. Would stamkos or p Kane owners trade either for Kessel AND Seguin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm byfuglien View Post
    Top 10 point getters this year are goalies because saves are worth a lot and there are 4 goalie roster spots on every team. They also count shootouts and shoutout wins, which is silly, but makes goalies more valuable. It's H2H points not cats.

    All is to say I think Lundqvist is a keeper here. #4 overall in points so far this year-- and he had an awful start to the year.

    Also, id hang on to Subban as well since he puts up as much Fantasy points as a forward with DA and DG.

    2 for 1 upgrade is the ideal scenario. Would stamkos or p Kane owners trade either for Kessel AND Seguin?
    H2H Points not Categories? That could change everything - you need to specify this in your signature, including the values of each category. I would actually include all league and roster settings so we have complete information to help you. Otherwise you are not going to get the most complete advice.

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    Yeah not giving full details is a good way to turn people off too. It's frustrationg when you give advise on the scenario presented and then the game changes.

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    Updated my signature. If I get banned because my signature is too long, I'm blaming you guys
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    I think I would keep both Seguin and Kessel in this league and drop Subban. You have a better chance of redrafting Subban or another top D-man early. With your categories both S & K are valuable commodities.
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