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    Were starting a keeper next year and are going to carry over 3 players from this year. Figured I'd go for a forward, defense and goalie to make it even. That leads me to the question.

    Miller had been doing great but lundqvist is back to being pretty decent again. I know a lot if people are going to say Lundy just based on his history, but he and the team were better under tortorella. Also miller didn't have the team in from of him that he does now. I know its hard to make a prediction like this because miller in the past has been worse than Lundy due to the teams. With St Louis killing it for the last few years, they're going to be a contender for a while. Nyr are having issues getting used to the new coach so who knows. Up until this miller trade I would've obviously said Lundy all day, but now...

    If miller stays in St Louis, do you like him or Lundy better over the next 3 years?
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    Neal, Karlsson, Lundqvist? Hard to argue with that logic.

    Lundqvist is the keep here. As great a scenario as Miller is in we don't know if he re-signs. You have time to figure this out and see if Miller re-signs but even then Lundy is a better goalie.
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    Haven't updated my sig but it was going to end up being tavares karlsson Lundqvist (someone dropped him and I ir'ed him just for the keeper). We are giving ourselves until a week before our draft to decide, so I have more than enough time. If miller destroys in the playoffs as well does your opinion change at all?
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    D: Karlsson, Yandle, Niskanen, Phaneuf, Savard
    G: Schneider, Hellebuyck
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    Quote Originally Posted by dillingerdis View Post
    Haven't updated my sig but it was going to end up being tavares karlsson Lundqvist (someone dropped him and I ir'ed him just for the keeper). We are giving ourselves until a week before our draft to decide, so I have more than enough time. If miller destroys in the playoffs as well does your opinion change at all?
    Oh, even better. As for Miller shredding the playoffs, nope. Doesn't change anything.
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    If Miller does re-sign in STL, then I want him over Lundy without a doubt in my mind.
    If Miller signs elsewhere, then you go with Lundy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 27Blue View Post
    If Miller does re-sign in STL, then I want him over Lundy without a doubt in my mind.
    If Miller signs elsewhere, then you go with Lundy.
    I agree with Blue.

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    Lundy is the better goalie, done.... If miller re signs with StL, then I want to know the scoring/cats.. As I could easily pick miller... I could come down to a miller mcd decision in my league, not easy.

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    The goalie cats are in my sig, and so far with miller in St Louis he's been doing better for me than lundqvist. That's a small look though and I'm glad well see more of miller before I need to fully decide, but this is a rough one for me because the one I don't chose is guaranteed a 1st round pick next year.
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    F: Tavares (C), Benn (C,LW), Backes (C,RW), Backstrom (C), Pavelski (C,LW), Crosby (C), Simmonds (LW,RW), Ladd (LW), E.Kane (LW), Jenner (C,RW)
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    I can't believe someone dropped JT in a keeper. Lunacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mounD View Post
    I can't believe someone dropped JT in a keeper. Lunacy.
    Can't believe you're the only one that caught this.........that's ridiculous, even in a keep-3. Why on earth would anyone drop him? Why wouldn't they just keep him on IR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 27Blue View Post
    If Miller does re-sign in STL, then I want him over Lundy without a doubt in my mind.
    If Miller signs elsewhere, then you go with Lundy.
    I agree with this. Both are amazing goalies, both are top-5 picks next year (with Miller in StL) given that I'll take the more defensive Blues over the Rangers.
    Sounds like you'll know where Miller is playing by the time you have to decide so I'd wait and see.
    Also, if you can trade keepers for extra draft picks or an upgrade- say Neal and Lundy for someone I'd give that serious consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawMan View Post
    I agree with this. Both are amazing goalies, both are top-5 picks next year (with Miller in StL) given that I'll take the more defensive Blues over the Rangers.
    Sounds like you'll know where Miller is playing by the time you have to decide so I'd wait and see.
    Also, if you can trade keepers for extra draft picks or an upgrade- say Neal and Lundy for someone I'd give that serious consideration.
    That's actually a really good idea, I didn't even think about it. I do have one guy in my league that's a huge penguins fan, so maybe trying to unload meal to him in the next couple weeks might be a good idea. He's currently number 1 in the league right now, & I think he would definitely be looking to trade some picks for this guy. Hopefully I can end up getting a second round pick off of him.
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    Benn deserves a second look to be a keeper vs Neal in my view. Benn doesn't miss half the season and has dual position eligibility even thought it isn't LWRW eligibility.

    But we are here to talk Goalies. And I think Miller is better than Lundy straight up. Now that his team is better defensively to me it is a no brainer. And yes it matters if Miller signs in STL, but yes he is going to sign there b/c STL will pay him what he deserves and you can tell the guy has been on a loser so long he's happy to be on a winner and he will stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 27Blue View Post
    If Miller does re-sign in STL, then I want him over Lundy without a doubt in my mind.
    If Miller signs elsewhere, then you go with Lundy.
    What if Hiller goes to FA and Miller signs in Anaheim, which is where he wants to be?
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    B/c STL is going to lock him up before ANA gets a chance to talk to Miller. If Miller ends up in ANA, then great. People think Andersen/Gibson in ANA, but don't forget its similar in STL w/ Allen. Now, NYI or VAN would be bad destinations!
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