What are the actual categories and point values?
Hi guys,
I have joined a few leagues this year, to try and get better at fantasy hockey and go more in-depth than my typical Yahoo one-year league that I have been doing for a few years. As well as a Fantrax one, I joined two in Fleaflicker. One of which is in my sig below, with the scoring system. It was only set up two months ago, with the idea of weeding out inactive owners now and having a good group going for next season.
I have come to the conclusion that I have no love for Fleaflicker as a website and system, and will drop out of the second league at the end of the season. I did so well/got lucky in the autodraft for this main one though, that I would like to stick with it, despite the website.
As the weeks have gone on though, I have become increasingly baffled by the scoring system employed. Starting three G means I am great in that position, strongest in the league. But elsewhere I am losing all over the place. The scoring is basically the overall points each player gets for you each week (so adding the scoring bits, taking away the - in the +/- etc). And the results have shocked me a bit in comparison to my other leagues.
Some examples below. Player and points so far this season:
Kopitar 91
RNH 35
M Koivu 32
Sharp 88
Nick Foligno 56
Lupul 32
Suter 51
Yandle 30
Pietrangelo 76
Doughty 60
Price 400
Quick 263
So maybe this isn't news to anyone. But I'm looking at those and think "what?" Price with 150 more than Quick? Doughty double the points of Yandle? Kopitar almost three times RNH/Koivu? Clearly it's just the cats and the way the scoring works, but it's kinda going against most things I have learnt this season!
So given all this, what would you suggest going forwards? Do I try and dump the likes of RNH, Yandle and target LA Kings skaters (as they seem to have lots of points)? Go much more for the gritty players with good +/- (normally a stat I ignore totally) rather than scorers, as they seem to benefit from this sytem? What would you do?
Fantrax 20 Team H2H 14 Keeper Daily
G A +/- PIM SOG PPP SHP Hit Blk FOW W GAA SV SV% SHO
C Steen Horcoff Umberger Brodziak Griffith
LW Sedin Palat Roussel Tatar Bergenheim Kulemin
RW Vey Williams Stafford Toffoli Wingels
D Karlsson Suban Maata Ceci Yandle Streit Hunwick
G Crawford, Allen, Nabakov
IR Boyle Murray Pirri Chara Merrill
What are the actual categories and point values?
This may come out looking awful:
G, A, PPG, SHG, PIM, +/-, H, B, Takeaways, W, OT Loss, SO, GS, SV
1 point for every Goal ALL
1 point for every Power Play Goal ALL
1 point for every Short Handed Goal ALL
1 point for every Assist ALL
3 points for every 10 Penalty Minutes (0.3 per) ALL
1 point for every Plus Minus C, LW, RW, D
Defense
1 point for every 5 Hits (0.2 per) C, LW, RW, D
2 points for every 5 Blocks (0.4 per) C, LW, RW, D
1 point for every 6 Takeaways (0.17 per) C, LW, RW, D
Goaltending
3 points for every Win G
1 point for every OT Loss G
5 points for every Shutout G
1 point for every Game Started G
1 point for every 5 Saves (0.2 per) G
Fantrax 20 Team H2H 14 Keeper Daily
G A +/- PIM SOG PPP SHP Hit Blk FOW W GAA SV SV% SHO
C Steen Horcoff Umberger Brodziak Griffith
LW Sedin Palat Roussel Tatar Bergenheim Kulemin
RW Vey Williams Stafford Toffoli Wingels
D Karlsson Suban Maata Ceci Yandle Streit Hunwick
G Crawford, Allen, Nabakov
IR Boyle Murray Pirri Chara Merrill
Very strange, but the biggest problem looks to be the high value of plus/minus... I think the best thing you could do is target players that are likely to be plus players for the rest of the season.
It may be too late, but I would target less ''sexy'' names that have hit and point potential that are on good teams. Ok, I know, you're thinking these guys are all gone...
But.... just in case, these are the players I would target:
- Lee Stempniak (most likely available... his +- will rise in Pitts and so will his points and he is a decent hitter)
- Brent Burns (make the trade for him, he will heat up in the final stretch IMO)
- Antoine Roussel (IF he's available - I doubt it - he may slot in Dallas' top-6)
- Andrew Shaw (he's been under the radar this year but has some good stats across the board. Odds are a manager just checking the point totals will have overlooked his 140 hits)
If not, can you provide us with some names that are available in your FA pool?
PS: your first drop should be Lindback, unless you have certain positional requirements (i.e. must carry 4 goalies or a max of x forwards...)
Keeper league 14 teams (H2H, 20 active players keep 16 NHLers, 16 minors)
Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO
C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka
Minors:
F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay
Thanks guys.
Roussel is on the FA list, 44 points so far. the other three are all taken (Shaw 54 points, Stempniak 8 (I assume due to the bad +/- at Flames before the move) and Burns 63)
FA on the list:
Bonino 52
Craig Smith 50
Joel Ward 48
Killorn 46
Perrault 45 (I hoped I could pick him up and just stash him on IR but the website insists he has to go into starting first, which makes my roster ineligble so can't do it. Helpful)
Upshall
Leddy
Desharnais
Toffoli
Roy
Soderberg
Raymond
Bieksa
Bergland
All the above early 40's
Garbutt
Legwand
Anisimov
Atkinson
Zajac
Russell
Greene
Coutorier
All late 30's.
Fantrax 20 Team H2H 14 Keeper Daily
G A +/- PIM SOG PPP SHP Hit Blk FOW W GAA SV SV% SHO
C Steen Horcoff Umberger Brodziak Griffith
LW Sedin Palat Roussel Tatar Bergenheim Kulemin
RW Vey Williams Stafford Toffoli Wingels
D Karlsson Suban Maata Ceci Yandle Streit Hunwick
G Crawford, Allen, Nabakov
IR Boyle Murray Pirri Chara Merrill
Also wondering if I should try and package RNH (that defence isn't getting better anytime soon, so +/- will continue to hurt him) with another to get a better keeper?
Fantrax 20 Team H2H 14 Keeper Daily
G A +/- PIM SOG PPP SHP Hit Blk FOW W GAA SV SV% SHO
C Steen Horcoff Umberger Brodziak Griffith
LW Sedin Palat Roussel Tatar Bergenheim Kulemin
RW Vey Williams Stafford Toffoli Wingels
D Karlsson Suban Maata Ceci Yandle Streit Hunwick
G Crawford, Allen, Nabakov
IR Boyle Murray Pirri Chara Merrill
I would keep my eye on Killorn in the next few games. The rest is not much of an upgrade, even in your format. However, if anyone gets injured, grab Smith though.
Also, I think Gonchar's initial +- will have hurt you until now, but going forward, he is still a better option than Leddy IMO.
Keeper league 14 teams (H2H, 20 active players keep 16 NHLers, 16 minors)
Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO
C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka
Minors:
F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay
Yeah Gonchar is a bust right now. Only player I thought about swapping him for was Russell. Seems to be ok +/- wise despite being a Flame, and gets points as well. I will keep an eye on Killhorn.
Do you agree that RNH is unlikely to improve in this format anytime soon? Just thinking about Keepers here.
Fantrax 20 Team H2H 14 Keeper Daily
G A +/- PIM SOG PPP SHP Hit Blk FOW W GAA SV SV% SHO
C Steen Horcoff Umberger Brodziak Griffith
LW Sedin Palat Roussel Tatar Bergenheim Kulemin
RW Vey Williams Stafford Toffoli Wingels
D Karlsson Suban Maata Ceci Yandle Streit Hunwick
G Crawford, Allen, Nabakov
IR Boyle Murray Pirri Chara Merrill
I would keep RNH because he does get some hits and his +/- is bound to spike up eventually (the +/- is what is hurting you here). Having him get 80 points, with 80 hits and +15 will make him a much more important piece of your roster. It will most likely happen sooner than later
Callahan could be a beast in this format as well all depending where he signs but at the moment, I would not keep him over Galchenyuk or RNH (your 2 ''weakest'' keepers).
Keeper league 14 teams (H2H, 20 active players keep 16 NHLers, 16 minors)
Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO
C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka
Minors:
F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay
Interesting. Maybe I have less faith in the kid and the Oilers than you do! Callahan and Simmonds were my borderline keeprs if I did a 2-1 upgrade, so he was in my thought process.
Fantrax 20 Team H2H 14 Keeper Daily
G A +/- PIM SOG PPP SHP Hit Blk FOW W GAA SV SV% SHO
C Steen Horcoff Umberger Brodziak Griffith
LW Sedin Palat Roussel Tatar Bergenheim Kulemin
RW Vey Williams Stafford Toffoli Wingels
D Karlsson Suban Maata Ceci Yandle Streit Hunwick
G Crawford, Allen, Nabakov
IR Boyle Murray Pirri Chara Merrill
Would love some more opinions on this if anyone wants to chime in?
Fantrax 20 Team H2H 14 Keeper Daily
G A +/- PIM SOG PPP SHP Hit Blk FOW W GAA SV SV% SHO
C Steen Horcoff Umberger Brodziak Griffith
LW Sedin Palat Roussel Tatar Bergenheim Kulemin
RW Vey Williams Stafford Toffoli Wingels
D Karlsson Suban Maata Ceci Yandle Streit Hunwick
G Crawford, Allen, Nabakov
IR Boyle Murray Pirri Chara Merrill