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    Default Offer for Toews

    My Toews + Schneider
    His Seguin + Carlson or Hodgson

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    My initial reaction was that there's no way I'd make this trade but after looking at your league settings I think you should do it. Seguin is a better own than Toews in your format and since you only start 1 goalie, combined with the fact that you don't count peripheral stats like Sv%, saves, GAA, etc., you can definitely afford to part with Schneider. This looks like one of those trades that will help both sides. Based on value alone however (Schneider >>> Hodgson/Carlson), I might try to get a bit more from the other guy, like a pick or prospect. That or I'd see if he's willing to take Kopitar/Datsyuk instead of Toews.
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    Default Re: Offer for Toews

    Thanks SergeP. Your advice was the same thing I was thinking. I doubt I could get anything else off the other GM. So the question now is, Hodgson or Carlson? Anyone else have any thoughts?

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    personally i don't like the deal

    not enough upgrade there for me to give up Schneider even in a weekly 1 goalie start league

    you are talking a 75 point guy vs a maybe 80 point guy
     
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    Default Re: Offer for Toews

    This trade really comes down to your take on the players involved. Lucifer sees Toews as 75pt and Seguin as 80pt. If you view it that way, then I'd argue it's not enough to give up Schneider. For me though, I view Toews as a 75pt guy (like Lucifer) but view Seguin as an 85 pt guy (with a career year or two getting at the 90 mark). So, my opinion would be to do it, but it is indeed close and like SergeP suggested, I think you should be able to get a bit more. I do like Carlson though, as it seems like the Caps have finally committed to him over Green. But in a start 2D weekly, he doesn't really hold much value to your team (when you have Karlsson and Subban).

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    As much as I like Seguin (and I really, really like him long term). This could be a slight overpayment. If Seguin is a top 10-15 player Toews would be awfully close. The issue is that Schnieder is developing into a top 10 goalie, and having to add that on top of Toews could be too much.
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    I would not make this trade. Schneider will be a stud goalie moving forward; he just needs to be the clear-cut #1 option. Stand pat!

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