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    Default Making a push... to deal or not deal?

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    C - Backes, Kopitar, Couture (I), Steen, Cogliano, Gagner
    LW - Landeskog, Burns, Schwartz, MacArthur
    RW - Sharp, Oshie, Vrbata, Neiderreiter
    D - Niskanen, Keith, OEL, Byguflien, Doughty
    G - Bishop, MAF, Scrivens

    I'm in pretty good contention, I'm one game out of 1st overall. I want to shore up RW. Have this offer

    Wayne Simmonds, Sekera, and Stafford/Callahan/Yakupov

    For

    Couture/Steen, Byguflien, and Oshie

    I really want Simmonds for some gritty scoring, but I don't know if I want to sacrifice all of the scoring I would be giving up.

    Thoughts?
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    RW - Sharp, Oshie, Vrbata, Neiderreiter
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    Not sure I'd be willing to do that just to land Simmonds. Outside of Simmonds, I'm not too excited about any of the other pieces coming back. There's got to be other options out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gainerama View Post
    Not sure I'd be willing to do that just to land Simmonds. Outside of Simmonds, I'm not too excited about any of the other pieces coming back. There's got to be other options out there.
    Yeah, me either...

    My initial deal was Couture/Steen and OEL for Simmonds, he said no go.

    I thought he was a seller, but just found out he's a buyer. Probably not going to get anything done....
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    LW - Landeskog, Burns, Schwartz, MacArthur
    RW - Sharp, Oshie, Vrbata, Neiderreiter
    D - Niskanen, Keith, OEL, Byguflien, Doughty
    G - Bishop, MAF, Scrivens

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    Not a chance i'll take that (and I'm a big Simmonda fan).

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    I'm looking for better avenues... might be able to get a player similar like Blake Wheeler... for much cheaper.
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    My team:
    C - Backes, Kopitar, Couture (I), Steen, Cogliano, Gagner
    LW - Landeskog, Burns, Schwartz, MacArthur
    RW - Sharp, Oshie, Vrbata, Neiderreiter
    D - Niskanen, Keith, OEL, Byguflien, Doughty
    G - Bishop, MAF, Scrivens

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    Yeah, that offer is a bunch of dog crap. That's almost the kind of return I would be looking to get for JUST Couture ... I'd be looking at making deals with different GMs. Target another owner, ask him what his team needs are / and if he is interested in any players on your club. Tell him who's available, and try to sell high on Steen.
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    Thank goodness he turned down that offer of Couture/OEL for Simmonds. You would have lost that one badly. Even the second offer would have seen you come out behind by a large margin.

    If you want some mroe grit, go get it off the waiver wire and use them as a plug here and there. Someone like Chris Neil or something. Don't trade away quality point producers for mediocre points and grit. It's not worth it in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flobert View Post
    Scoring: g, a, pts, ppg, ppa, +/-, PIM, GAA, Sv %, W, SO

    My team:
    C - Backes, Kopitar, Couture (I), Steen, Cogliano, Gagner
    LW - Landeskog, Burns, Schwartz, MacArthur
    RW - Sharp, Oshie, Vrbata, Neiderreiter
    D - Niskanen, Keith, OEL, Byguflien, Doughty
    G - Bishop, MAF, Scrivens

    I'm in pretty good contention, I'm one game out of 1st overall. I want to shore up RW. Have this offer

    Wayne Simmonds, Sekera, and Stafford/Callahan/Yakupov

    For

    Couture/Steen, Byguflien, and Oshie

    I really want Simmonds for some gritty scoring, but I don't know if I want to sacrifice all of the scoring I would be giving up.

    Thoughts?
    Sorry, but you'd be crazy to make that deal now and in the future. Pass. Acquire a player "Simmonds-lite" elsewhere for a more affordable price.
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    The league I am in is a CBS league and everyone and their grandmother is a centre. So their is this artificial inflated value on wingers.

    Now way I even consider this deal if positions were accurate. No one on waivers for wingers is worth adding IMO.
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    My team:
    C - Backes, Kopitar, Couture (I), Steen, Cogliano, Gagner
    LW - Landeskog, Burns, Schwartz, MacArthur
    RW - Sharp, Oshie, Vrbata, Neiderreiter
    D - Niskanen, Keith, OEL, Byguflien, Doughty
    G - Bishop, MAF, Scrivens

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    After today, TJ Oshie is going no where!
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    My team:
    C - Backes, Kopitar, Couture (I), Steen, Cogliano, Gagner
    LW - Landeskog, Burns, Schwartz, MacArthur
    RW - Sharp, Oshie, Vrbata, Neiderreiter
    D - Niskanen, Keith, OEL, Byguflien, Doughty
    G - Bishop, MAF, Scrivens

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    Yuck, I'd never make that deal. Maybe you can try capitalizing on Oshie's performance in the Olympics and try to trade him for Simmonds ALONE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kofax View Post
    Thank goodness he turned down that offer of Couture/OEL for Simmonds. You would have lost that one badly. Even the second offer would have seen you come out behind by a large margin.

    If you want some mroe grit, go get it off the waiver wire and use them as a plug here and there. Someone like Chris Neil or something. Don't trade away quality point producers for mediocre points and grit. It's not worth it in the end.
    Agree completely. Couture/OEL for Simmonds would have been severe overpayment, I think. Do you really need "grit" in your league? Don't see hits or shot blocks in your categories...


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