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    Hey all, what do you think?
    For team in sig, I would be getting Voynov?
    I don't think I am getting enough?
    Is Killorns meshing on the first line a mirage?
    Or should I sell Killorn now?
    I responded if he wants Killorn, I need more?
    Like a substantial pick as well?
    Thanks in advance?
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    Killorn is a good player, but long term he's likely losing his spot. Voynov is struggling now and has been bumped from the first pp.
    Seems like a good buy low/sell high to me.
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    So you think straight up?
    I was thinking to try to get a bit more added in?
    What does everyone else think?
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    2*G,1*a,+/-*.5,.2* pim
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    were you shopping Killorn or did you just get a trade offer out of the blue for him
     
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    Killorn is not a mirage. He's going to become a legit top six player and should be treated as such....30 goals and around 60 pts is his upside. I personally think for your leagues setup getting Voynov for him is a pretty good deal for you. Voynov is a nice upgrade over several of your dmen most notably Russell and Petry.

    I would try to get something extra added in since Killorn's value is really high right now while Voynov hasn't had that great of a start thus far. But I would feel comfortable moving Killorn for Voynov straight up in your league, sure. It's a fair trade.

    Hope this helps.
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    Thanks all,
    He came at me with a few trade offers?
    But always the pieces were around Killorn and Voynov.
    One had Khubodin, and M Subban being swapped.
    Didn't interest me at all.
    I think I'll thrw out a offer of adding a pick from his side?
    If he wants Killorn that bad?
    Thanks
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    2*G,1*a,+/-*.5,.2* pim
    4*W,-1*L,1*OTL,5*SO
    17 Keepers
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    Goal
    Vejmelka, Markstrom, Forsberg, Alnefelt,
    Ukko-Pekka Luukkoonen
    Defence
    Slavin, Pietrangelo, Girard, Hague, Joseph,
    Matheson, Brannstrom, Jokiharju, Parayko
    Forward
    Gaudreau*, Tuch, Garland, Mangiapane, L’Hereux
    Aho*, McCann, Necas, Stephenson, Zacha,
    Marchessault*, Stone, Reilly Smith, Hall,
    Giroux, Landeskog, Rodrigues, Reilly Smith, Yamamoto

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    just because someone is interested in one of your players doesn't mean you need to trade them

    you seem very ambivalent to making this deal and haven't really articulated how you think it will actually make your team better

    don't make a deal just to make a deal
     
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    I never thought I'd utter "Good point Lucifer", in my lifetime, but I guess I just did.
    I always see myself as a contender, but am now in 10th in a 16 team league, mainly because of a weakness in goal? So kind of looking at upgrading keepers, at the same time looking to improve. Already 120 points out, and yes I know it's early, but always better to be in front instead of playing catch up?
    I need points now which would be keeping Killorn? But this is a lifetime league and if you can make your team better now and in the future you gotta try.
    Thanks for the advice all!
    16 team league, Weekly changes
    32 Players play 20, 2 Goalies, 6 Def, 12 Fwd
    2*G,1*a,+/-*.5,.2* pim
    4*W,-1*L,1*OTL,5*SO
    17 Keepers
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    Slavin, Pietrangelo, Girard, Hague, Joseph,
    Matheson, Brannstrom, Jokiharju, Parayko
    Forward
    Gaudreau*, Tuch, Garland, Mangiapane, L’Hereux
    Aho*, McCann, Necas, Stephenson, Zacha,
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    Killorn vor Voynov is a very reasonable trade offer. I bet you would have jumped at that at the beginning of the year. That being said, I don't blame you for trying to get a pick thrown in there, or a pick upgrade or something. But if you go for a really substantial additional piece, my feeling is he walks away. Good luck.

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    ok you are thinking about this move because you have an eye towards keeper improvement good

    put Killorn on the block and see what interest you get for him who knows you may do better

    i couldn't tell you how many times i have seen deals in leagues where i thought hell i would have given something slightly better to get that player but never had the chance because that person didn't shop the player they just took an offer that was presented to them

    i am not saying this is a bad move for you to make or anything like that, i just go the impression that your heart really wasn't in it and you were looking to make a deal because you had to
     
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    Thanks all.
    If it happens it happens. LOL.
    Good Luck to all this year.
    16 team league, Weekly changes
    32 Players play 20, 2 Goalies, 6 Def, 12 Fwd
    2*G,1*a,+/-*.5,.2* pim
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    Goal
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    Ukko-Pekka Luukkoonen
    Defence
    Slavin, Pietrangelo, Girard, Hague, Joseph,
    Matheson, Brannstrom, Jokiharju, Parayko
    Forward
    Gaudreau*, Tuch, Garland, Mangiapane, L’Hereux
    Aho*, McCann, Necas, Stephenson, Zacha,
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    Looks like it might be
    Killorn and a 2014 5th
    For
    Voynov and a 2014 3rd
    I think this is OK.
    Thanks all.
    16 team league, Weekly changes
    32 Players play 20, 2 Goalies, 6 Def, 12 Fwd
    2*G,1*a,+/-*.5,.2* pim
    4*W,-1*L,1*OTL,5*SO
    17 Keepers
    Keepers marked with*
    auto protect under 40 Games
    Goal
    Vejmelka, Markstrom, Forsberg, Alnefelt,
    Ukko-Pekka Luukkoonen
    Defence
    Slavin, Pietrangelo, Girard, Hague, Joseph,
    Matheson, Brannstrom, Jokiharju, Parayko
    Forward
    Gaudreau*, Tuch, Garland, Mangiapane, L’Hereux
    Aho*, McCann, Necas, Stephenson, Zacha,
    Marchessault*, Stone, Reilly Smith, Hall,
    Giroux, Landeskog, Rodrigues, Reilly Smith, Yamamoto

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAC123 View Post
    Looks like it might be
    Killorn and a 2014 5th
    For
    Voynov and a 2014 3rd
    I think this is OK.
    Thanks all.
    And a pick upgrade. Well done.

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    Thanks Al
    Ended up
    Killorn and a 4th for
    Voynov and a 2nd.
    I hope it works out for the both of us? But not enough for me to regret it. LOL
    Thanks Forum.
    Always a pleasure.
    16 team league, Weekly changes
    32 Players play 20, 2 Goalies, 6 Def, 12 Fwd
    2*G,1*a,+/-*.5,.2* pim
    4*W,-1*L,1*OTL,5*SO
    17 Keepers
    Keepers marked with*
    auto protect under 40 Games
    Goal
    Vejmelka, Markstrom, Forsberg, Alnefelt,
    Ukko-Pekka Luukkoonen
    Defence
    Slavin, Pietrangelo, Girard, Hague, Joseph,
    Matheson, Brannstrom, Jokiharju, Parayko
    Forward
    Gaudreau*, Tuch, Garland, Mangiapane, L’Hereux
    Aho*, McCann, Necas, Stephenson, Zacha,
    Marchessault*, Stone, Reilly Smith, Hall,
    Giroux, Landeskog, Rodrigues, Reilly Smith, Yamamoto

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